Sir Andrew Davis conducts Elgar's The Dream of Gerontius

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  • Petrushka
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    • Nov 2010
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    #16
    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
    There's a fine performance on DVD conducted by Sir Andrew Davis, no longer available here, but still around for our North American friends, or for those who can access Region 1 DVDs.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dream-Geront...s+andrew+davis
    I was present at that performance but was defeated by the notorious St Paul's acoustic from hearing much of it.
    "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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      • Nov 2010
      • 20578

      #17
      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
      There's a fine performance on DVD conducted by Sir Andrew Davis, no longer available here, but still around for our North American friends, or for those who can access Region 1 DVDs.

      http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dream-Geront...s+andrew+davis
      I may be wrong about Region 2 availability:-

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      • cloughie
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        • Dec 2011
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        #18
        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post


        Surely that's the one you are doing in the Proms ?
        Maybe he's got Sir Tim to update the lyrics!

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        • Pabmusic
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          • May 2011
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          #19
          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
          Maybe he's got Sir Tim to update the lyrics!
          "Jesus, Maria, I ain't 'alf feeling bad..."

          "I had a kip, but now I feel OK..."

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          • Eine Alpensinfonie
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            • Nov 2010
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            #20
            It's impossible to have an intelligent conversation about The Dream of Gerontius on this forum, because a certain person will always hijack it.

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            • MrGongGong
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              • Nov 2010
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              #21
              all gone
              carry on
              and enjoy it

              (i will "go forth")

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              • Petrushka
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                • Nov 2010
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                #22
                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                It's impossible to have an intelligent conversation about The Dream of Gerontius on this forum, because a certain person will always hijack it.
                Yes, seems strangely obsessed with disliking the piece somehow...
                "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                • aeolium
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #23
                  I never understand why anyone would go out of their way to talk about music they dislike (especially intensely dislike). The chances are that such people have not taken the trouble to listen to the music on many occasions or in many versions, as people who like the music and know it well have. Perhaps the motive is just provocation.

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                  • Alison
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #24
                    It does get a bit boring.

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                    • cloughie
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                      • Dec 2011
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by aeolium View Post
                      I never understand why anyone would go out of their way to talk about music they dislike (especially intensely dislike). The chances are that such people have not taken the trouble to listen to the music on many occasions or in many versions, as people who like the music and know it well have. Perhaps the motive is just provocation.
                      Well it's better than listening to it - I'm sure that's the case with me and Bolero!

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                      • MrGongGong
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by aeolium View Post
                        I never understand why anyone would go out of their way to talk about music they dislike (especially intensely dislike). The chances are that such people have not taken the trouble to listen to the music on many occasions or in many versions, as people who like the music and know it well have. Perhaps the motive is just provocation.
                        Actually my "dislike" of DoG isn't a case of that at all.
                        Sometimes "liking" things can get in the way of understanding them.

                        What IS interesting about pieces like DoG is that the balance between the "music" as a sonic phenomenon and things like the text and context.

                        Conflating taste with value can be a mistake.

                        I never understand people who only listen to music they like.

                        But carry on....... i'm sure it was a great gig if that's your thing

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                        • Alison
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #27
                          Ok, so I can't abide Country and Western music.

                          Now isn't that interesting?

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                          • MrGongGong
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Alison View Post
                            Ok, so I can't abide Country and Western music.

                            Now isn't that interesting?
                            Yes it is.
                            I'm not a great enthusiast
                            So how about a trip to Nashville ?

                            Zoe Martlew has this on her website

                            "She studied at the Royal College and Academy of Music, Clare College, Cambridge and the Chopin Academy in Warsaw, is naturally blonde and draws the line at Dutch techno."

                            She used to say that she "draws the line at Country and Western"

                            How about "Country and Eastern" ?

                            ( Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan stylee)

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                            • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20578

                              #30
                              Despite being something of an Elgar enthusiast, it was some time before I came to appreciate Gerontius, whereas with The Kingdom, it was love at first hearing (and still high on my desert island list). Being brought up to attend Halle concerts in the 1960s, I was first introduced to the work by hearing Barbirolli's recording, but it was not until I heard the Pears/Britten version that It finally clicked.
                              Yet the finest performance I ever heard was given by the Chesterfield Philharmonic Chorus with the South Yorkshire Symphony Orchestra in the early 80s.

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