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  • Sir Monty Golfear
    • Jan 2025

    Bravo John Lill

    What a brilliant performance by John Lill of Rachmaninonov's 3rd piano concerto tonight. Great to hear a truly solid and totally engaging interpretation of this great concerto. Bravo John.
  • Alison
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 6488

    #2
    Agreed, a marvellous antidote to the photogenic wonder kid stuff we're normally fed by concert promoters and record companies.

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    • Sir Monty Golfear

      #3
      Originally posted by Alison View Post
      Agreed, a marvellous antidote to the photogenic wonder kid stuff we're normally fed by concert promoters and record companies.
      Exactly!.... nothing superficial, or flashy here. I was immersed in the music. The first movement cadenza just flowed and built with a "rightness" as did all the tempi. It all felt so right.

      Bravo!.

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      • Alison
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 6488

        #4
        There really is a serious problem with ageism in relation to concerto soloists. We rightly venerate the contribution of ageing maestros while prematurely writing off some of our finest instrumentalists.

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        • Bryn
          Banned
          • Mar 2007
          • 24688

          #5
          I think it may well be the case that that very fine pianist John Tilbury did not debut as a concerto soloist until his 70s. He then gave a number of concerto performances with Ilan Volkov (somewhat his junior) in Glasgow, Reykjavik and at the Proms. Catch him at Cafe OTO next Monday evening.

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          • Tony Halstead
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 1717

            #6
            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
            I think it may well be the case that that very fine pianist John Tilbury did not debut as a concerto soloist until his 70s. He then gave a number of concerto performances with Ilan Volkov (somewhat his junior) in Glasgow, Reykjavik and at the Proms. Catch him at Cafe OTO next Monday evening.
            Sorry Bryn but this is 'off topic'... John Tilbury may be the world's greatest interpreter of Morton Feldman and, furthermore, a 'marvel' in that he has made a concerto debut in his 70s, but, we are currently discussing John Lill and his wonderful performance of Rachmaninov's 3rd concerto.

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            • Bryn
              Banned
              • Mar 2007
              • 24688

              #7
              And I was responding to Alison's #4, giving an example which went against the trend she detected.

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              • Sir Monty Golfear

                #8

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                • gradus
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 5642

                  #9
                  Unfortunately I missed tonight's performance but heard JL give a fine performance of the Emperor last Saturday. I do hope that someone somewhere records this great musician's complete Beethoven sonata cycle as it is many years since he recorded his first set.

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                  • edashtav
                    Full Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 3676

                    #10
                    John Lill has great virtues and has displayed a reliable pair of hands throughout his career. Tonight, as in earlier performances by him, I was neither bowled over either by the depth of interpretation nor by edgy brilliance, but, from time to time I was astonished by a difficult passage where the notes were played with a complete technical command that could not have been be bettered. John is unassuming and he tries to convey composers' wishes to the audience without imprinting (John's) own views and values. Noble virtues in an age that worships more trivial matters.

                    I have rarely enjoyed Rachmaninov's 3rd concerto more.

                    Bravo, indeed!

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                    • EdgeleyRob
                      Guest
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12180

                      #11
                      The rest of the concert wasn't too bad either.
                      Marvelous evening's music.

                      Pop up studio thingy,blimey.

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                      • edashtav
                        Full Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 3676

                        #12
                        Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                        The rest of the concert wasn't too bad either.
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                        True - the Tragic Overture was idiomatic, yet with some pleasant intrepretative insights, and the RPO sounded relaxed, confident and full of March sunshine as they played Dvorak's "English" symphony.
                        I frequently feel sorry for the RPO the peri. band that circles around the big beasts living on the hackneyed scraps that fall from the masters' tables. Here, they were taking Coals to music's Newcastle (aka South Bank) and doing it with a smile and a touch of panache.

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                        • Bryn
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 24688

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Alison View Post
                          There really is a serious problem with ageism in relation to concerto soloists. We rightly venerate the contribution of ageing maestros while prematurely writing off some of our finest instrumentalists.
                          I have now listened to the Rachmaninov and it was indeed a very fine performance. However, to add to my earlier response to Alison's #4, younger maestros also get a fair degree of promition:



                          [Thanks to IRF, over at r3ok.com, for that YouTube link.]

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                            Gone fishin'
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 30163

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                            However, to add to my earlier response to Alison's #4, younger maestros also get a fair degree of promition:

                            [Thanks to IRF, over at r3ok.com, for that YouTube link.]
                            Oh, that is priceless, Bryn! Utterly wonderful - many thanks (and to IRF, too).
                            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                            • Hornspieler
                              Late Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 1847

                              #15
                              Originally posted by edashtav View Post
                              John Lill has great virtues and has displayed a reliable pair of hands throughout his career. Tonight, as in earlier performances by him, I was neither bowled over either by the depth of interpretation nor by edgy brilliance, but, from time to time I was astonished by a difficult passage where the notes were played with a complete technical command that could not have been be bettered. John is unassuming and he tries to convey composers' wishes to the audience without imprinting (John's) own views and values. Noble virtues in an age that worships more trivial matters.

                              I have rarely enjoyed Rachmaninov's 3rd concerto more.

                              Bravo, indeed!
                              A fine perrformance indeed. Very musical playing - some unfamiliar places which may be accounted for by the fact that, as he said, John Lill was playing Rachmaninov's first version of the 3rd concerto.

                              I think that I must have played in this concerto at least eight times with Peter Katin and so naturally I found myself looking for his more dynamic approach.

                              But that does not mean that I did not enjoy John Lill's interpretation.

                              My one slight complaint was the very muffled horn sound in those very important solos. Rachmaninov gave special prominence to the horn in all of his orchestral works - like a sort of clarion call and I did not get that feeling; although the horn sound was very clear and effective during the Tragic overture.

                              I always enjoy listening to Dvorak's 8th symphony and this was no exception.
                              A work which almost needs no interpretation (interference) and the RPO sounded in very good form.
                              They might be regarded by some as the poor cousins among the four London orchestras, but this was splendidly lively playing.

                              Hs
                              Last edited by Hornspieler; 19-03-14, 07:32.

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