Live in Concert 20.03.14 Philharmonia/Maazel - Strauss

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  • Flay
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    • Mar 2007
    • 5795

    #46
    I could not listen to most of it last night but I tuned in just about as the quiet was settling (Ausklang). I was spellbound by its slowness which fitted with a feeling of exhaustion, achievement and happy memories of an incredible day's hiking, and anticipating the head hitting the pillow (with that final glissando).

    But had I heard the rest at such a slow pace I suspect I would have been irritable by this time.
    Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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    • Zucchini
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      • Nov 2010
      • 917

      #47
      The Guardian critic found plenty to admire and enjoy:
      Lorin Maazel captured the transcendent qualities of the Alpine Symphony and the dance of Also Sprach Zarathustra in a celebration of Richard Strauss's 150th anniversary, writes George Hall


      (I'm highly allergic to Strauss & prefer football so didn't listen)

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      • Flay
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        • Mar 2007
        • 5795

        #48
        Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
        The Guardian critic found plenty to admire and enjoy
        <<Maazel's measured and methodical conducting >>
        But no mention of the organ in that review??
        Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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        • teamsaint
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          • Nov 2010
          • 25255

          #49
          its not the most comprehensive review ever. I'm sure he was constrained by word count, but that being so, quite a bit of his space seems to have been used on peripheral stuff.

          Always good to learn from old Pros, so i have jotted down " A rich complexity of tonal colourings" for future use, in my little book.
          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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          • Eine Alpensinfonie
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            • Nov 2010
            • 20582

            #50
            Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
            The Guardian critic found plenty to admire and enjoy:
            Lorin Maazel captured the transcendent qualities of the Alpine Symphony and the dance of Also Sprach Zarathustra in a celebration of Richard Strauss's 150th anniversary, writes George Hall
            I know there have been occasions when critics haven't bothered to turn up to the concert. I can't help wondering whether....

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            • PJPJ
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              • Nov 2010
              • 1461

              #51
              Here's Colin Anderson's review. I thought the performances gripping at home - must have been quite an occasion in the RFH, certainly judging by the enthusiastic reception.

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              • Petrushka
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                • Nov 2010
                • 12391

                #52
                Unable o listen last night, I recorded this concert on to my hard drive and plan to give it a hearing on Sunday night. Maazel certainly divides opinion just as he did when he conducted the VPO in the Bruckner 8 at last year's Proms. I found that much more impressive than most on here so am looking forward to hearing this Strauss concert. Colin Anderson's review has certainly whetted my appetite!
                "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                • Alison
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 6493

                  #53
                  I will listen again. Tired as I was last night, I am not expecting to enjoy it very much.

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                  • cloughie
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                    • Dec 2011
                    • 22242

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Alison View Post
                    I will listen again. Tired as I was last night, I am not expecting to enjoy it very much.
                    I think you've already decided - I've got say I've listened to more of the Symphony and I like it!

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                    • edashtav
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                      • Jul 2012
                      • 3677

                      #55
                      Originally posted by PJPJ View Post
                      Here's Colin Anderson's review. I thought the performances gripping at home - must have been quite an occasion in the RFH, certainly judging by the enthusiastic reception.
                      That's a fascinating, helpful and illuminating review with which I can concur to a great extent. I'm 100% behind CA in querying the concert's order.Also Spracht demands to set the scene and not conclude it. The absence of "risers" on stage was well picked up by Colin, also. Richard Strauss does depend on blending his lines and the sections of the orchestra, and LM is a master at balancing group against group to yield a warmer, more homogenised sound. To put it crudely,"Life remains in the old dog." Timings are irrevelant "in the moment". LM revealed a panoply of detail that a faster pace would have obscured. Not full marks, but the BEST Strauss playing that I've encountered during the present anniversary season.

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                      • teamsaint
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 25255

                        #56
                        Originally posted by edashtav View Post
                        That's a fascinating, helpful and illuminating review with which I can concur to a great extent. I'm 100% behind CA in querying the concert's order.Also Spracht demands to set the scene and not conclude it. The absence of "risers" on stage was well picked up by Colin, also. Richard Strauss does depend on blending his lines and the sections of the orchestra, and LM is a master at balancing group against group to yield a warmer, more homogenised sound. To put it crudely,"Life remains in the old dog." Timings are irrevelant "in the moment". LM revealed a panoply of detail that a faster pace would have obscured. Not full marks, but the BEST Strauss playing that I've encountered during the present anniversary season.
                        Ed, I wouldn't argue with your comments about timings" in the moment". However in the hall , for me, it did feel at times that a little more momentum was needed. I didn't time it, but I would have guessed at just under an hour. The fact that it was almost 67 kind of makes your point, as it didn't feel THAT long.

                        I really don't understand the ordering of the schedule. I managed to move from a particularly poor seat at the side to a much better one in the rear stalls at half time. Wish it had been the symphony i had seen from there!
                        I can't completely agree with Anderson's review. There was much fine playing, and so much to enjoy, but I just didn't get the total exhilaration that he seems to have. But then, the organ loomed a good deal larger in my appreciation than it seems to have in his, so it's in the eye of the beholder I guess.

                        edit: Although on reflection, I had a brilliant view of the organist, which perhaps explains something of my perceptions of the performance.
                        Last edited by teamsaint; 21-03-14, 22:44.
                        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

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                        • Alison
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 6493

                          #57
                          Just think Cloughie how you'd carpet Bernie Haitink for going that slow !!

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                          • edashtav
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                            • Jul 2012
                            • 3677

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Alison View Post
                            Just think Cloughie how you'd carpet Bernie Haitink for going that slow !!
                            A well made point , Alison. Slowness is of no matter if you're "lovin' it" but, if you're out of kilter with the interpretation... one's mind turns to cutting comments.

                            I enjoyed last night, so ...

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                            • BBMmk2
                              Late Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20908

                              #59
                              A very good friend of mine, who is a well respected composer, said to me that he felt there was a lack of ebb and flow to Maazel's concert.
                              Don’t cry for me
                              I go where music was born

                              J S Bach 1685-1750

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                              • pastoralguy
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 7876

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                                A very good friend of mine, who is a well respected composer, said to me that he felt there was a lack of ebb and flow to Maazel's concert.
                                Very well put, BBM.

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