The Cardinall's Musick: EMS 23 February

[doversoul1]

Lucie Skeaping plays recordings of the Cardinall's Musick and talks to its director Andrew Carwood as the group celebrates its 25th anniversary. Music played includes works by Byrd, Fayrfax, Ludford and Sheppard.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03w0ds0

[Black Swan]

I am really looking forward to this EMS. The Cardinall's Musick is one of my favorite groups. I have never heard them live but will remedy this at the York Early Music Festival in July.

[doversoul1]

Any choir experts heard this programme?

Nicholas Ludford, Robert Fayrfax, Robert Parsons plus Victoria, Byrd, and Tallis. I thought the singing was wonderful.

[ed] but why is the music played in the background to start with? Terribly frustrating.

[DracoM]

Music sublime. Cardinall's Musick....? Erm. Maybe.

[jean]

I enjoyed it very much. I was lucky enough to sing Ludford for a week under AC's direction a few years ago - his enthusiasm is infectious. I can't wait for two whole days of Tallis.

Cardinall's Musick....? Erm. Maybe.

Why?

[DracoM]

Quot homines etc?

[jean]

Are they so very different from the Tallis Scholars and the Sixteen, consisting as they do of many of the same singers?

Does AC's direction turn them into something reprehensible?

That's all I want to know.

[Gabriel Jackson]

Are they so very different from the Tallis Scholars and the Sixteen, consisting as they do of many of the same singers?

Does AC's direction turn them into something reprehensible?

That's all I want to know.

I doubt you'll get a coherent answer!

As far as I'm concerned, Andrew is a very fine musician with a distinctive vision for this music, which is well realised by excellent singers. I don't see what the problem is.

[DracoM]

Are they so very different from the Tallis Scholars and the Sixteen, consisting as they do of many of the same singers?

Does AC's direction turn them into something reprehensible?

That's all I want to know.

Short answer to question: no.

And as I tried to indicate it is my opinion. I am in no way casting aspersions on their musical skills which are manifestly of an extraordinary order. I'm just not terribly fond of the sound they collectively make. 'Reprehensible' is your word, not mine.

[jean]

If your 'no' was in answer to both my questions, I assume you don't care for the Sixteen or the TS either.

Something to do with a top line of adult women, then?

[Old Grumpy]

If your 'no' was in answer to both my questions, I assume you don't care for the Sixteen or the TS either.

Something to do with a top line of adult women, then?

I personally much prefer to listen to the groups where the top line(s) is/are sung by adult women. Personal preference of the uninformed, obviously.

OG

[DracoM]

Not uninformed at all, just a matter of choice. Good on yer.

Stile Antico? Very partial to them - adult women top line, so..............????????

[jean]

'Reprehensible' is your word, not mine.

You added that since I replied - let's use a different term then. Not to your taste.

I'm just interested in why you don't care for them. It's not a female top line, because you like Stile Antico. It can't be the singers themselves, unless you also rule out the Sixteen and the TS.

So what is it?

[Honoured Guest]

You added that since I replied - let's use a different term then. Not to your taste.

I'm just interested in why you don't care for them. It's not a female top line, because you like Stile Antico. It can't be the singers themselves, unless you also rule out the Sixteen and the TS.

So what is it?

Could be a subliminal association of Musick with vomit?

[ardcarp]

Isn't this thread getting a bit silly? And maybe a bit hostile too. We are so fortunate to have in the UK small professional chamber choirs (many listed above) who can do the pre-Ref repertoire amazingly well. We are equally fortunate to have places such as NCO, CCO, StJCC, StMary's Edinburgh and others who can make 'professional' recordings with kids on the top line/s. Spoilt for choice, I call it!