On a contractual point, does the fact that Catherine has left R3 mean that she will no longer be asked to present any BBC programmes...e.e. fronting a BBC4 broadcast? In other words is it total goodbye to the Beeb?
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If R3 audiences are "fickle" then as license fee payers then that is our right.
When you get treated like a customer, I tend to think that the only option open is to act like a customer.
We don't know what the quality of this new CFM series will be like. But its really hard to envisage the BBC undertaking such a project at present, when cuts,( even more) repeats, concerts cut up into bite size pieces, and presenters with very little specialist knowledge are the direction of travel.
R3 can't even find a decent home or format for Discovering Music. When that is the case, it's no wonder that the "customers " feel alienated, and behave in a fickle manner.I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
I am not a number, I am a free man.Comment
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If she is freelance (i.e Self Employed) then they can't insist on anything like that (even though some folks try it on !)Originally posted by ardcarp View PostComment
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Originally posted by mercia View Posthopefully KD brought some loyal listeners with her in her move
Its so difficult to detect irony on message boards isn't it?O Wort, du Wort, das mir Fehlt!Comment
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Judging by what CB said herself upthread, I got the distinct impression that her days broadcasting for the BBC are a thing of the past. Nevertheless, I wish her well and look forward to hearing her broadcasts on CFM.
In some respects,to lose such a well respected broadcaster may be just what is needed to give Radio 3 management the necessary jolt out of its complacency.Comment
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Time to redouble emails etc to Lord Hall to ask him what the hell the Radio 3 management are playing at....Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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What irony?Its so difficult to detect irony on message boards isn't it?
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She is/was and once said that almost all presenters are on freelance contracts and don't have the status of staff.Originally posted by MrGongGong View PostComment
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She could be asked as a guest at any time, but judging by what happened to Aled Jones when he crossed to commercial television (he lost his R2 slot and television, plus, eventually, R3) I don't know that she'd get a new series. And, really, she was hand-picked for TEMS, like Andrew Manze (I supposed) because they both had early music expertise. It may also depend on the terms of her contract with CFM anyway.Originally posted by ardcarp View PostIt isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.Comment
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Though there was the "scandal" a year or so back where it was revealed that lots of BBC folks were freelance with the assumption that self-employed folks don't pay tax ....... not sure if the BBC have done what several other organisations have in the last couple of years and tried to put everyone on a PAYE contract ?Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
Though this is dull nonsense and not really worth discussing in detail
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I don't wish to derail this thread but two questions. I'm not a FaceBooker but what has been the reaction, if any, on the R3 FB to Catherine Bott going to CFM and, I can see on the public FoR3 FB an item reporting "the BBC's complaint to Ofcom, following the departure of Catherine Bott to Classic FM, that the rival station is 'aping' Radio 3 by employing presenters who know about classical music has been REJECTED on the grounds that the policy was not distinctive of Radio 3 in recent years"
Google reveals nothing about this - (Just wondering, is this an old complaint? -I can read front pages of FB but not further comments, etc.)Comment
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Alas, a spoof - but it got 200 views in no time at all! :-)Originally posted by Anna View Post
A couple of 'Others' posts on R3's page, but not much follow-up. If you check the 'likes' links, the predominant age-group is 25-34 and between a third and a half of 'likers' seem to be furriners. I really don't think Facebook is doing a lot for Radio 3 though it does allow people to advertise their wares, including hair clinics, and keeps Mr Bowbrick busy.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.Comment
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I don't know if this is at all relevant, but payment to freelance musicians falls into two categories. Some venues just pay up whether by cheque, bank transfer (latterly) or cash in a brown envelope. Others, usually institutions of some sort, require evidence of self-employed statuts, e.g. a Schedule D notice of coding or similar, before settling up without tax-deduction. The latter are presumably afraid of being accused by HMRC of colluding with tax evasion. Hard to imagine the BBC just doing the brown envelope thing, especially to a well-known presenter who works on a regular basis.Comment
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