Monteverdi’s opera

[Old Grumpy]

I have Jordi Savall's L'Orfeo DVD from Opus Arte, which is excellent. I too would like to explore Monteverdi's operas further. To start with Poppea seems like a good idea. This DVD by William Christie and Les Arts Florissants seems like a steal (£8.44 on Amazon) for an introduction, although there are a few negative reviews.

OG

[doversoul1]

I have Jordi Savall's L'Orfeo DVD from Opus Arte, which is excellent. I too would like to explore Monteverdi's operas further. To start with Poppea seems like a good idea. This DVD by William Christie and Les Arts Florissants seems like a steal (£8.44 on Amazon) for an introduction, although there are a few negative reviews.

OG

I won’t stop you buying the DVD but I’ve just found this. You could see it yourself before buying it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijDi-2RADX0

[Old Grumpy]

I won’t stop you buying the DVD but I’ve just found this. You could see it yourself before buying it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijDi-2RADX0

Thanks doversoul

[MickyD]

It is really wonderful that we are able to see complete operas/concerts on YouTube, but it amazes me that there are no problems regarding copyright. I notice that the Savall "Orfeo" was taken off air from a French cable arts station...is this different to someone posting the performance off a DVD?

[Sir Velo]

It is really wonderful that we are able to see complete operas/concerts on YouTube, but it amazes me that there are no problems regarding copyright. I notice that the Savall "Orfeo" was taken off air from a French cable arts station...is this different to someone posting the performance off a DVD?

The short answer is that there is almost certainly a breach of copyright taking place. However, YouTube does not itself monitor its site for copyright infroingements. Instead, it only acts when it receives a removal request or otherwise becomes aware that a video or any part of a video on its site infringes the copyrights of a third party.

My advice is to keep quiet and enjoy these goodies while you can!

[ardcarp]

A set of parts for a certain French ballet suite arrives without a proper score (only a 'piano-conductor') for use with a certain orchestra.

A miniature score is ordered from a certain online supplier of everything..

A certain person takes it to a certain copy shop.

An A4 sized copy is produced for the ludicrously small sum of £5 including stapling.

Has a certain person infringed copyright, and ought the said person to keep quiet?

[teamsaint]

Just in case anybody has, like me , been looking for a complete " Poppea" with English subtitles........

here is a Harnoncourt version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZZyySg6JZU

you need to click the " Captions" button on the screen and select English. (or one of several other languages if that is your thing).

[gamba]

I won’t stop you buying the DVD but I’ve just found this. You could see it yourself before buying it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijDi-2RADX0

Have tried, unavailable. gamba

[doversoul1]

Have tried, unavailable. gamba

gamba
I see it has been deleted. I am sorry to have disappointed you. There are a few short clips of the production but they may not be of much help/interest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr4Lvx_pfyM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYc_rHlNz7U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExgdQfn_Jf4&list=PLVaPppJTvHTiW_1pESJCy0XmYfcnQ6nWQ

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

A set of parts for a certain French ballet suite arrives without a proper score (only a 'piano-conductor') for use with a certain orchestra.
A miniature score is ordered from a certain online supplier of everything..
A certain person takes it to a certain copy shop.
An A4 sized copy is produced for the ludicrously small sum of £5 including stapling.

Has a certain person infringed copyright, and ought the said person to keep quiet?

I don't think so, ardy (and I certainly hope not - somebody I know has been photocopying some mini-scores to A4 simply in order to see the notes for years). As I understand it, as long as the original M/S was legally bought, (and not borrowed from a library or a friend) the purchaser can do what they like with it - as long as you don't then try to publish and/or profit from any copies made.

[ardcarp]

phew

[Flosshilde]

I don't think so, ardy (and I certainly hope not - somebody I know has been photocopying some mini-scores to A4 simply in order to see the notes for years). As I understand it, as long as the original M/S was legally bought, (and not borrowed from a library or a friend) the purchaser can do what they like with it - as long as you don't then try to publish and/or profit from any copies made.

No - if they copy it & give the copy to a friend (or any one else) they'd be infringing copyright. It's probably OK if you make the copy for your own use, but copyright legislation is very strict.

[gamba]

Doversoul, For what it's worth;

BBC R3 Thurs.3rd. April, 2pm. - 4.30 pm

Monteverdi L' Orfeo.

La Veneziana cond. Claudio Cavina

From Misteria Paschalia Festival, Cracow 2013.

[doversoul1]

Oh ****!! I shan’t be here.

[ed] I've deleted the rest of my original post, as it was about Poppea.

[gamba]

... innarestin'.

For me the recitatives are often the most moving parts - whether in Bach cantatas, Lully or Mozart operas. They can have a directness which is very effective, and the subtleties of changes in time-signatures in Lully can be lovely...

And for me especially, the sound of a single bass viol ( viola da gamba) and/or baroque cello.

Gamba