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  • doversoul1
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    • Dec 2010
    • 7132

    Helden-counter-tenor

    Just to liven up a midweek evening (if you like this sort of thing, that is)

    Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

    An aria from Artaserse
    (performer) Franco Fagioli

    I wonder what Alfred Deller would have made of it. Come to think of it, what would the EMS team think of the opera as a subject one day?
  • Pianorak
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3128

    #2
    Originally posted by doversoul View Post
    Just to liven up a midweek evening (if you like this sort of thing, that is)

    Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

    An aria from Artaserse
    (performer) Franco Fagioli
    What a spellbinding performance - and the first counter-tenor voice I actually like!
    My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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    • ostuni
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      • Nov 2010
      • 551

      #3
      Hmmm - not to my taste at all. I prefer countertenors to sound like men, not contraltos on an off day... And what about that vibrato? Not much point in singing semiquavers if your voice is already wobbling at that speed.

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      • Tony Halstead
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        • Nov 2010
        • 1717

        #4
        Originally posted by ostuni View Post
        Hmmm - not to my taste at all. I prefer countertenors to sound like men, not contraltos on an off day... And what about that vibrato? Not much point in singing semiquavers if your voice is already wobbling at that speed.

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        • Pianorak
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          • Nov 2010
          • 3128

          #5
          Oh dear - just goes to show what I know - or rather don't!
          My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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          • MrGongGong
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            • Nov 2010
            • 18357

            #6
            Originally posted by Pianorak View Post
            Oh dear - just goes to show what I know - or rather don't!
            well you know this

            the first counter-tenor voice I actually like!

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            • doversoul1
              Ex Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 7132

              #7
              Pianorak
              Very glad to hear that you liked this. It’s not very often that a countertenor brings the house down this way. Never mind the vibrato and all that. This is not Dowland. It’s Murder and Vengeance (I think) and what goes with it. I can’t say I ‘like’ the voice but I thought this was absolutely amazing.

              MrGG
              Wise as ever

              [ed] ostuni and waldhorn
              I’d normally agree with you about vibrato but this is one of those rare occasions (actually the first time) when it didn’t bother me at all.
              Last edited by doversoul1; 14-11-12, 22:07.

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              • Pianorak
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                • Nov 2010
                • 3128

                #8
                Originally posted by doversoul View Post
                Pianorak
                Very glad to hear that you liked this.
                But I wasn't supposed to like it!! And I never even noticed the wobbly voice and vibrato. I think I'd better stick to the piano.
                My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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                • doversoul1
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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 7132

                  #9
                  Pianorak
                  We are not alone. Here’s Tim Ashley giving five stars in The Gordian.

                  But the singing is epoch-making, above all from Fagioli, who seems to redefine the capabilities of the countertenor voice and take it beguilingly into territories new. Listen to him, and be seduced.
                  The singing here is epoch-making. Buy it, listen to Fagioli, and be seduced, writes Tim Ashley


                  I think I'd better stick to the piano.
                  Oh, I wouldn’t suggest you listen to the harpsichord next, but don’t go away from this. Not that I expect you to start listening to Andreas Scholl & Co., as I think this performance is an odd one off kind.

                  [ed] I don’t mean Fagioli is not particularly good any other time, but this is one of those rare occasions when something spectacular happens.
                  Last edited by doversoul1; 15-11-12, 08:45.

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                  • amateur51

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                    well you know this
                    Precisely, MrGG!

                    Courage, pianorak, courage!

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                    • Il Grande Inquisitor
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                      • Mar 2007
                      • 961

                      #11
                      I've only just arrived at this, via Tim Ashley's Grauniad review. Fagioli's voice sounds very mezzo-ish - it could almost be Cecilia Bartoli - but it's an incredibly exciting sound and performance. I suppose for this opera, containing five counter-tenor roles, Diego Fasolis was looking for as much contrast between his singers as possible. I think he's probably succeeded!
                      Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency....

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                      • Pianorak
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3128

                        #12
                        Thanks, Am51 - I'll have a Courage Iechyd da!
                        My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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                        • Don Basilio
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 320

                          #13
                          Whose the composer? It isn't Thomas Arne translated into Italian.

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                          • mercia
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 8920

                            #14
                            this would be too high for a [conventional] countertenor to sing, I assume. is the role normally sung by a soprano en travesti ?

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                            • doversoul1
                              Ex Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 7132

                              #15
                              Don
                              Leonardo Vinci


                              mercia
                              First performed in Rome in 1730, Leonardo Vinci's Artaserse has the reputation of being one of opera's greatest castrato-fests. Women were banned from Roman stages in the early 18th century, so Vinci deployed castrati as his heroines as well as his heroes

                              From The Guardian’s review

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