Debussy Preludes - early pianos

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

La Monte Young's Piano Piece for David
Tudor #1, written in October 1960,
instructs: "Bring a bale of hay and a bucket
of water onto the stage for the piano to eat
and drink. The performer may then feed the
piano or leave it to eat by itself. If the
former, the piece is over after the piano
has been fed. If the latter, it is over
after the piano eats or decides not to".

Mr GG, I'm shocked! The Piano that Young would have expected to eat the hay was a very different instrument from that of 43 years later. Changes in Pedal action alone would have a subtle but noticeably different effect on the sound of the Piano's digestive system. I strongly advise a comparison of David Tudor's "Live" recording (made shortly after the premiere, AND IN THE PRESENCE OF THE COMPOSER) with that of Ian Pace in 2005. Admittedly, differences in recorded sound exacerbate the problems, but the gentler ruminations of the Tudor are still obvious even to the most casual (That's enough HIPP parody - Ed.)

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

I have a 2003 Steinway. What music am I permitted to play on it?

Anything you like, Alpie.




(But just remember ..... WE'RE WATCHING YOU!)

[amateur51]

Mr GG, I'm shocked! The Piano that Young would have expected to eat the hay was a very different instrument from that of 43 years later. Changes in Pedal action alone would have a subtle but noticeably different effect on the sound of the Piano's digestive system. I strongly advise a comparison of David Tudor's "Live" recording (made shortly after the premiere, AND IN THE PRESENCE OF THE COMPOSER) with that of Ian Pace in 2005. Admittedly, differences in recorded sound exacerbate the problems, but the gentler ruminations of the Tudor are still obvious even to the most casual (That's enough HIPP parody - Ed.)

Careful ferney, you'll fall foul of The Childishness Police so prevalent on here of late if you're not careful

[doversoul1]

Anything you like, Alpie.




(But just remember ..... WE'RE WATCHING YOU!)

...and we are talking about Early Music (just another reminder)

[MrGongGong]

Mr GG, I'm shocked! The Piano that Young would have expected to eat the hay was a very different instrument from that of 43 years later. Changes in Pedal action alone would have a subtle but noticeably different effect on the sound of the Piano's digestive system. I strongly advise a comparison of David Tudor's "Live" recording (made shortly after the premiere, AND IN THE PRESENCE OF THE COMPOSER) with that of Ian Pace in 2005. Admittedly, differences in recorded sound exacerbate the problems, but the gentler ruminations of the Tudor are still obvious even to the most casual (That's enough HIPP parody - Ed.)

Actually there will come a time where it's harder to do Cage's prepared piano pieces , "rubbers" these days (settle down at the back now ) aren't made of rubber so to get the "authentic" sound that Cage wanted will be tricky ....... (perish the thought you might say !)

[Pianorak]

I have a 2003 Steinway.

A Steinway? So last year! Get with it, hip not HIPP

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18303012

Come to think of it, my 1996 Steinway probably qualifies for HIPP.

[amateur51]

Actually there will come a time where it's harder to do Cage's prepared piano pieces , "rubbers" these days (settle down at the back now ) aren't made of rubber so to get the "authentic" sound that Cage wanted will be tricky ....... (perish the thought you might say !)

Perishable rubbers? - no thanks !

[amateur51]

A Steinway? So last year! Get with it, hip not HIPP

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18303012

Lovely stuff, Pianorak - sound sad it was invented too late for Brendel

[Nick Armstrong]

Perishable rubbers? - no thanks !

Speaking of which, where the hell is rubbers?!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Speaking of which, where the hell is rubbers?!

Stuck between the strings of a Steinway?

[Nick Armstrong]

Stuck between the strings of a Steinway?

He said he's been tied up a lot lately, but that's ridiculous!