Jordi Savall

[Guest]

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'Music is music. It’s equal, whether it’s old, new, jazz, Celtic, Sephardic, or Muslim. The importance is what we can do with it — the emotions, the spiritual dimensions we can bring. Music is what makes us human. If the world had more space for music, we would have more peace.'

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[Pegleg]

Forever the gentleman ambassador of music. I'm listening to Celtic Viol (vol.2) right now.

Jordi Savall guests on “In Tune” tonight and this Friday's “Live in Concert” from the Luftansa Festival is not to be missed.

[kuligin]

I thought this was worth sharing with you.......

'Music is music. It’s equal, whether it’s old, new, jazz, Celtic, Sephardic, or Muslim. The importance is what we can do with it — the emotions, the spiritual dimensions we can bring. Music is what makes us human. If the world had more space for music, we would have more peace.'

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I really disagree with Savall, all music is not equal and the musicans vocation is not what " we can do with it" but to try and realise the composers directions, that needs both scholarship and musicality

Which may be explains why so many of Savalls recordings of Constantinople etc to my ears sound rather closer to the 20th century than the 15th century to my ears

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

I really disagree with Savall, all music is not equal

Yes, I have problems equating Jedward with the Eroica, too!

the musicans vocation is not what " we can do with it" but to try and realise the composers directions, that needs both scholarship and musicality

Especially in the Music that lacks a "composer" and little in the way of what we think of as a "score" today.

Yes, with the Eroica, the performers' highest and most difficult duty/task/calling, I believe, is to realize what Beethoven wrote on the page - but that, in itself, is something "[the performers] can do with it". I would have preferred it if he'd said "the emotions and spiritual dimensions we can bring out" (of the scores) because that's what I (as an admirer of Savali's work) would like to believe he meant.

I like your "scholarship and Musicality": the scholarship to know the notes of the work, its background and what the composer took for granted (so didn't feel the need to write in the score); and "Musicality": the ability to play/sing well, to use one's imagination intelligently (what does "Allegretto" mean in this context?) and to be able to communicate this both to other Musicians and to the listener.

[Mr Pee]

Forever the gentleman ambassador of music. I'm listening to Celtic Viol (vol.2) right now.

I have that- it's a marvellous CD!

[Pegleg]

I came late to classical music after many musically fallow years. I only discovered Jordi Savall and his various collaborators after seeing the film “Tous les Matins du Monde” and began to explore a little of his extensive discography.

I cannot speak of the authenticity of his 15th century music, but his recordings of Purcell, Lully, Sainte Colombe, Marin Marais, Francois Couperin, Bach, Rameau, Boccerinhi, Haydn and Mozart continue to give hour after hour of aural delights.

How about this?

Jean-Philippe Rameau: La Orquesta de Luis XV - Concierto de Jordi Savall

http://youtu.be/v1ItcF7PWRM

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Jordi Savall Les Voix Humaines(Bach,Abel,Forqueray,Marais,etc)

http://youtu.be/R-jEYHbCp5k

Now I think I'm in the mood to fandango ...

[BBMmk2]

What a p[ity I be missing that on "In Tune". JS always good to hear. I am involved with the school orchestra tonight!

[MickyD]

For me, Jordi Savall's very best recording is of François Couperin's "Les Nations", made back in 1986 for Astrée. Magical!

[pilamenon]

For me, Jordi Savall's very best recording is of François Couperin's "Les Nations", made back in 1986 for Astrée. Magical!

Very exciting performance of Geminiani's La Folia variations in the Friday evening concert. Well worth hearing on iplayer if you can.

[ShoveCoupler]

'Music is music. It’s equal, whether it’s old, new, jazz, Celtic, Sephardic, or Muslim. The importance is what we can do with it — the emotions, the spiritual dimensions we can bring. Music is what makes us human. If the world had more space for music, we would have more peace.'

While much of this Savall quote looks platitudinous, the point about "... what we can do with it" does ring true to me; it makes the composer's score a starting point from which to create a musical experience rather than placing it on a lofty pedestal with musicians grovelling about at the bottom vainly trying to realise the ideal.

That's what I like about Early Music, much of it is quite sketchy, performers need to use their musicality to make it work, there's a sense of working with, rather than being a slave to, the composer.

[Ariosto]

Well, I'm playing terribly badly at the moment so after hearing bits of those links to the Jordi Savill performances, maybe I should join the bandwaggon and start doing all this HIPP stuff. I could always wear earplugs if I couldn't stand the noise ...

[Pegleg]

Is it just the low SQ of YouTube you disliked, or does the whole baroque thing put your teeth on edge? Oh well, one person's meat and all that …

Personally, I thought Friday's Live in Concert Savall sandwich with a Zelenka and Bach filling was just so many delicious earfuls...

For afters I listened to this :

Zelenka: Officium Defunctorum, ZWV 47 | Václav Luks & Collegium 1704 - http://youtu.be/1d2ylTKwWHU

Looking forward to next week's offerings from the Lufthansa festival.

[Ariosto]

Is it just the low SQ of YouTube you disliked, or does the whole baroque thing put your teeth on edge? Oh well, one person's meat and all that …

Personally, I thought Friday's Live in Concert Savall sandwich with a Zelenka and Bach filling was just so many delicious earfuls...

For afters I listened to this :

Zelenka: Officium Defunctorum, ZWV 47 | Václav Luks & Collegium 1704 - http://youtu.be/1d2ylTKwWHU

Looking forward to next week's offerings from the Lufthansa festival.

Hi Pegleg

I much prefered the Zelenka - and even though I would have some misgivings about the balance and the sound at times, I thought this was much, much better. The recordings of the other things were very muddy which did not help.

On the whole though I found the Zelenka much more acceptable and I listened for about 10 minutes.

Thanks for not taking me too seriously!!

[Pegleg]

Tisk tisk, only ten minutes? How about some quack factor 15 from Hotteterre: http://youtu.be/zOMF6yg09Qs I promsie the second sonata is more soothing from this stellar cast of hipsters. Or this could be your next mobile ring tone: http://youtu.be/EtBOofQShuM Admittedly at 1.50min it's a tad long. Happy listening

[Ariosto]

Tisk tisk, only ten minutes? How about some quack factor 15 from Hotteterre: http://youtu.be/zOMF6yg09Qs I promsie the second sonata is more soothing from this stellar cast of hipsters. Or this could be your next mobile ring tone: http://youtu.be/EtBOofQShuM Admittedly at 1.50min it's a tad long. Happy listening

I'm afraid that I can't take more than 10 minutes of early music. And with a lot of it 30 seconds is about my limit. I'm afraid most of the composers are, to be honest, rather boring and repetitive. Whilst there are one or two early composers who (in my opinion) were greats, most I can't really be bothered with.

I play some JS Bach, and a lot of Haydn and Mozart. Occasionally some other composers if I like performing their music. But mostly I would rather play music from about 1750 up the the present day.