Early music on TTN

[oddoneout]

A Tuesday treat on TTN "A baroque kind of love", courtesy of Herne Early Music Days festival (why can't R3 broadcast more of these?).



I think this is "TRÄNEN GELACHT" from Tage Alter Musik in Herne 2022, if so, it was also broadcast on WDR3 11/11/2022 & the listing included a photo of La Florida Capella...



DeepL (thanks MickyD) translates the WDR3 listing (which is based on the Festival program) as:



Not sure what Alpenglow is, exactly, but I do remember breakfast cereal adverts with a radioactive glow from my youth

N.B. WPMT translates the title as "Tears of Laughter, Laughter Through Tears" and gives a list of pieces that matches TTN's.

"Alpenglow is an optical phenomenon..." facilitated by apres-ski imbibing perhaps?
(real answer here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpenglow)

[AuntDaisy]

"Alpenglow is an optical phenomenon..." facilitated by apres-ski imbibing perhaps?
(real answer here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpenglow)

Thanks ooo, an interesting article & I'll happily drink to that as being an explanation.

Can any of the forum's German linguists give a more colloquial English translation for "... und mit Alpenglühen begegnet"?

[LMcD]

Thanks ooo, an interesting article & I'll happily drink to that as being an explanation.

Can any of the forum's German linguists give a more colloquial English translation for "... und mit Alpenglühen begegnet"?

Not offhand, but if you google Alpengluehen Recipe you'll find something to help you 'drink to that'.

[oddoneout]

Thanks ooo, an interesting article & I'll happily drink to that as being an explanation.

Can any of the forum's German linguists give a more colloquial English translation for "... und mit Alpenglühen begegnet"?

Encounter[begegnet] the(aforementioned) Alpine glow at a guess?
Can't help thinking that

grüblerischer Melancholie,

sounds messy rather than brooding...

[kernelbogey]

You have to take the whole phrase with the final verb, which attaches to all the feeling-words:

...stellt das Programm Solokantaten Antonio Cesti vor, der Liebeskummer mit grüblerischer Melancholie, Sarkasmus, Galgenhumor und mit Alpenglühen begegnet.

... the programme presents solo cantatas of Antonio Cesti, who meets love-sickness with thoughtful melancholy, sarcasm, gallows humour and Alpenglow.

I guess you had to be there...!

(BTW I have seen Alpenglow many times: it is very beautiful, and lasts only a few minutes or even seconds.)

[AuntDaisy]

Thanks kernelbogey, oddoneout & LMcD- that's helped. I think you're right kb, you had to be there. From the images online it does look very spectacular.

I've just noticed that the WDR3 2022 broadcast is still available to listen to - perhaps presenter Sabine Radermacher explained more?
Or Danielle Jalowiecka will, tonight on TTN?

[LMcD]

You have to take the whole phrase with the final verb, which attaches to all the feeling-words:

...stellt das Programm Solokantaten Antonio Cesti vor, der Liebeskummer mit grüblerischer Melancholie, Sarkasmus, Galgenhumor und mit Alpenglühen begegnet.

... the programme presents solo cantatas of Antonio Cesti, who meets love-sickness with thoughtful melancholy, sarcasm, gallows humour and Alpenglow.

I guess you had to be there...!

(BTW I have seen Alpenglow many times: it is very beautiful, and lasts only a few minutes or even seconds.)

'begegnet' might also be translated as 'faces', 'confronts', 'counters' or 'treats'.

[kernelbogey]

Listening to this now - wonderfull - but missed the alpenglow on the South Downs.

[AuntDaisy]

Listening to this now - wonderfull - but missed the alpenglow on the South Downs.

Perhaps it will appear later? A sort of denuement - Après-ski Twiglet of the Gods?

I listened to parts of the WDR3 broadcast. I think Sabine Radermacher says, ~19:56, that Marian Polin found a hand-written note in a library in Bolgna, and then Polin talks about the Alpi nevose dure (Antonio Cesti). That must be the mysterious Alpenglow.

[LMcD]

Perhaps it will appear later? A sort of denuement - Après-ski Twiglet of the Gods?

I listened to parts of the WDR3 broadcast. I think Sabine Radermacher says, ~19:56, that Marian Polin found a hand-written note in a library in Bolgna, and then Polin talks about the Alpi nevose dure (Antonio Cesti). That must be the mysterious Alpenglow.

I've emailed WDR in the hope of being offered an 'official' explanation, or at least a helpful hint!

[oddoneout]

Perhaps it will appear later? A sort of denuement - Après-ski Twiglet of the Gods?

I listened to parts of the WDR3 broadcast. I think Sabine Radermacher says, ~19:56, that Marian Polin found a hand-written note in a library in Bolgna, and then Polin talks about the Alpi nevose dure (Antonio Cesti). That must be the mysterious Alpenglow.

Or not?

https://cantataitaliana.it/scheda/7512

Also in reply to LMcD

More here

The summaries of three cantatas may give an impression of what they are about. Alpi nevose e dure: "The classical theme of unrequited love is treated in the first person in this short cantata. The protagonist asks the Alps to hide the blinding, disturbing sun from him (a metaphor for the beloved) and to show him the way to death, which is the only way to free him from his torment."

http://www.musica-dei-donum.org/cd_reviews/ArsProduktion_ARS38640.html

[AuntDaisy]

Thanks LMcD & oddoneout and apologies for leading everyone down this rabbit hole.

[oddoneout]

Listening to this now - wonderfull - but missed the alpenglow on the South Downs.

Not to be confused with light pollution from the Great Wen?

[kernelbogey]

Thanks LMcD & oddoneout and apologies for leading everyone down this rabbit hole.

The Forum is riddled with rabbit holes!

[oddoneout]

Thanks LMcD & oddoneout & apologies for leading everyone down this rabbit hole.

No apologies needed AuntD as far as I'm concerned. Rabbit holes aren't always wasted journeys, and in any case no-one forced me underground!