John Whitworth Counter tenor - from his daughter

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  • Alex Whitworth
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    • Feb 2023
    • 6

    John Whitworth Counter tenor - from his daughter

    Decade later, after my father's death, I have found this forum! We started to set up a website about him, and were looking at ways for funding this but so far, not much - partly because one's own life has to be lived and funded first!

    I'm glad I have found this forum - I listen to R3 more and more now.

    It is also nice to find that his discography is popping up on various platforms, such as Spotify and Apple Music.

    I was approached by a harpsichord player last year, at a concert I sang and read at (dressed as Dorothy Wordsworth - long story!!) who asked if John Whitworth was my father, as she had been taught by him. These connections are lovely and treasured.

    I look forward to browsing around this forum for any other mention of him - in the meantime - if anyone has any memories or anything they'd like to contribute to this thread - it would be lovely to read out to my mother (John's wife of fifty years) as she now has dementia and cannot access the internet any more.

    Thank you in advance.
    Alex (Alexandra)
  • smittims
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    • Aug 2022
    • 4159

    #2
    I remember him only from the Oiseau-Lyre recordings of Purcell's 'Fairy Queen' , where he sings the three counter-tenor characters, and 'Come ye sons of art' where he duets with Alfred Deller, classic recordings which I must have played countless times on LP and CD. Certainly I would count him among the pioneers of the post-war early music revival in Britain.

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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      • Nov 2010
      • 20570

      #3
      Originally posted by Alex Whitworth View Post

      I look forward to browsing around this forum for any other mention of him - in the meantime - if anyone has any memories or anything they'd like to contribute to this thread - it would be lovely to read out to my mother (John's wife of fifty years) as she now has dementia and cannot access the internet any more.

      Thank you in advance.
      Alex (Alexandra)
      You can use the search facility, which lists threads that contain his name, though you’ll still have to trawl through individual posts within the threads.

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      • smittims
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        • Aug 2022
        • 4159

        #4
        Sorry, I didn't notice the other thread. Maybe we should merge the two.

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
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          • Nov 2010
          • 20570

          #5
          Originally posted by smittims View Post
          Sorry, I didn't notice the other thread. Maybe we should merge the two.

          Eventually, yes, but for the time being, we’re keeping them separate:

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          • MickyD
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            • Nov 2010
            • 4774

            #6
            As an avid early music enthusiast of many years, I am ashamed to say that I was unaware of John Whitworth and his important contribution to the early music movement. Having read all the high praise on the Forum, I will certainly be seeking out his recordings - always pleasant to add to one's musical knowledge.

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            • Serial_Apologist
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              • Dec 2010
              • 37691

              #7
              Originally posted by smittims View Post
              I remember him only from the Oiseau-Lyre recordings of Purcell's 'Fairy Queen' , where he sings the three counter-tenor characters, and 'Come ye sons of art' where he duets with Alfred Deller, classic recordings which I must have played countless times on LP and CD. Certainly I would count him among the pioneers of the post-war early music revival in Britain.
              The very recording I have of Come Ye Sons of Art - (the Editions de L'Oiseau-Lyre coupling with Lully's Miserere with a slightly different line-up, as we jazz people say) - for which, I guess, I should now thank John Whitworth posthumously for having got me into Purcell's music in the early 70s. So, welcome to you here, Alex.

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              • Alex Whitworth
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                • Feb 2023
                • 6

                #8
                Thank you :-)

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                • Alex Whitworth
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                  • Feb 2023
                  • 6

                  #9
                  That is lovely to read - thank you

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                  • Alex Whitworth
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                    • Feb 2023
                    • 6

                    #10
                    At my advanced age I decided to finally take some ABRSM singing exams - and have come to realise how much of Purcell et al, is actually just "in there", I guess from hearing it sung around me since I was born (and very likely before!)

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                    • french frank
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                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30301

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Alex Whitworth View Post
                      At my advanced age I decided to finally take some ABRSM singing exams - and have come to realise how much of Purcell et al, is actually just "in there", I guess from hearing it sung around me since I was born (and very likely before!)
                      Good luck, Alex. A very precious gift to have inherited from your father.
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • Alex Whitworth
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                        • Feb 2023
                        • 6

                        #12
                        Thank you - sounds strange, but sometimes I can "hear" him when I feel I'm getting something right :-)

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                        • Serial_Apologist
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 37691

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Alex Whitworth View Post
                          Thank you - sounds strange, but sometimes I can "hear" him when I feel I'm getting something right :-)
                          When we discovered I had a good boy soprano voice they gave me strict tutelage to rid me of glottal stops so as to be able to sing Purcell "correctly", in the Laurence Olivier delivery manner in "Richard III". I'm willing to bet they didn't give elocution* lessons back in Purcell's time!

                          *(At the time I described these as "electrocution lessons"!)

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                          • ardcarp
                            Late member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 11102

                            #14
                            Ever heard of Red Byrd? They throw Laurence Olivier to the wind and sing Gibbons, Byrd etc in what they guessed was a contemporaneous accent.* A bit Mummerset if you like. I can't put my hand on my favourite CD of theirs right now, but I'll post it when it turns up.

                            *I think tenor John Potter fostered the idea. And Red Byrd often sang with viol consorts, eg The Rose Consort and Fretwork
                            Last edited by ardcarp; 13-02-23, 00:00.

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