History of the Chapel Royal: EMS 1st September

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  • doversoul1
    Ex Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 7132

    History of the Chapel Royal: EMS 1st September

    Recorded at the Palace of St James's in London. Lucie Skeaping examines music written for the Chapel Royal with its director Joseph McHardy, with the backdrop of more than 300 years of turbulent history of Britain from the 15th to the 17th centuries and the different monarchs that were in power at the time – and the composers who served them. Familiar names like Thomas Tallis, William Byrd and Henry Purcell feature, but also those of lesser-known composers like John Pyamour, Robert Faryfax, Thomas Tomkin, Pelham Humfrey, among others.
  • LeMartinPecheur
    Full Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 4717

    #2
    Originally posted by doversoul1 View Post
    Recorded at the Palace of St James's in London. Lucie Skeaping examines music written for the Chapel Royal with its director Joseph McHardy, with the backdrop of more than 300 years of turbulent history of Britain from the 15th to the 17th centuries and the different monarchs that were in power at the time – and the composers who served them. Familiar names like Thomas Tallis, William Byrd and Henry Purcell feature, but also those of lesser-known composers like John Pyamour, Robert Faryfax, Thomas Tomkin, Pelham Humfrey, among others.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00083c0
    Shouldn't the highlighted gentleman be in the plural?
    I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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    • oddoneout
      Full Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 9204

      #3
      Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
      Shouldn't the highlighted gentleman be in the plural?
      And what about poor Robert Faryfax[sic] - away with the fairies?
      I'm surprised that John Pyamour escaped unscathed considering that Google told me I was looking for John Pyarmor...

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      • LeMartinPecheur
        Full Member
        • Apr 2007
        • 4717

        #4
        Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
        And what about poor Robert Faryfax[sic] - away with the fairies?
        I'm surprised that John Pyamour escaped unscathed considering that Google told me I was looking for John Pyarmor...
        On the latter, it's from before proper spelling was invented (by Dr Johnson)

        Big DOH! for me for not spotting Faryfax though
        I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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        • oddoneout
          Full Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 9204

          #5
          Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
          On the latter, it's from before proper spelling was invented (by Dr Johnson)

          Big DOH! for me for not spotting Faryfax though
          In Google's case it was because it thought I should be more interested in wanting to
          obfuscate python scripts
          , than finding out about some long dead 'classical music' person.

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          • doversoul1
            Ex Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 7132

            #6
            We had BGM throughout the programme. Whose idea was this? Neither the music nor the talk deserved this.

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            • vinteuil
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 12843

              #7
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              ... who is BGM?


              .

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              • doversoul1
                Ex Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 7132

                #8
                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                .

                ... who is BGM?


                .
                backgroundmusic

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                • oddoneout
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 9204

                  #9
                  Originally posted by doversoul1 View Post
                  backgroundmusic
                  Felt like a longer programme had been squashed into the hour slot. The musical 'noises off' irritation was exacerbated for me by some unpleasant interference of the loud hiss variety which appeared part way through.

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                  • pilamenon
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 454

                    #10
                    I still found it an enjoyable listen. Very clear interviewee on both the music and the history.

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                    • DracoM
                      Host
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 12973

                      #11
                      Originally posted by doversoul1 View Post
                      We had BGM throughout the programme. Whose idea was this? Neither the music nor the talk deserved this.
                      Absolutely.
                      It thought it was a TV documentary.
                      If the central topic was the MUSIC - which it manifestly was supposed to be - then why on earth did we not get far more and far more continuously music solo to listen to?
                      And....ahem......was not the Chapel Royal choir topped by boys singing? Stephen Darlington's CCCOx team has a whole series of Eton Choirbook pieces by many of the mentioned composers. So why did we not hear more from boy-topped ensembles to establish a sound closer to that which the composers would have heard and perforce have regularly written for? KCC, yes. well...........maybe, but...

                      Yes, I am delighted we had the programme at all, but...but...but...!
                      Last edited by DracoM; 02-09-19, 09:36.

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                      • AuntDaisy
                        Host
                        • Jun 2018
                        • 1658

                        #12
                        The apt "A sad pavan for these distracted times" made me smile.

                        I enjoyed the programme, but also found the background music distracting.

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                        • ardcarp
                          Late member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 11102

                          #13
                          I suppose the programme fell between two stools. The long history of the Chapel (or should one say Chapels) Royal has always been of great interest to me. (It all began with a postgrad thesis many moons ago.) However, the premise of the EMS is to play quite a bit of music. It's quite impossible therefore, in a 1-hour programme, to do justice to the words and music of a huge subject. Not sure they got the format right, even within theoe limitations.

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                          • oddoneout
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 9204

                            #14
                            Towards the end Lucie Skeaping did make a comment to the effect that there was a lot to find out about the subject. Perhaps there could be a revised and extended repeat, or alternatively revisit the topic at a future date to retrieve the bits that were left out and omit the BGM.

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                            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                              Gone fishin'
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 30163

                              #15
                              R3 used to do series of programmes devoted to a single historic topic (I keep coming across "Third of Six Programmes" when compiling the Today's the Day posts): there's a whole six- (or eight-) part weekly series Music at the Chapel Royal that could be made by a truly "distinctive cultural Music radio station".
                              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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