Rebel against the Renaissance: EML 3 June

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  • doversoul1
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    • Dec 2010
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    Rebel against the Renaissance: EML 3 June

    Elin Manahan Thomas presents a concert recorded at the Herne Early Music Days Festival in Germany in November 2017. The Magnificat Consort and Philip Cave perform vocal music inspired by the execution of the Dominican friar Savonarola, who rebelled against the Renaissance. Music includes pieces by Josquin des Prez, William Byrd, Orlando Lassus and Heinrich Isaac.
    The Magnificat Consort with Philip Cave in vocal music inspired by Girolamo Savonarola.


    Was the Renaissance a kind of authority against which people could rebel?
  • Serial_Apologist
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    • Dec 2010
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    #2
    Originally posted by doversoul1 View Post
    Elin Manahan Thomas presents a concert recorded at the Herne Early Music Days Festival in Germany in November 2017. The Magnificat Consort and Philip Cave perform vocal music inspired by the execution of the Dominican friar Savonarola, who rebelled against the Renaissance. Music includes pieces by Josquin des Prez, William Byrd, Orlando Lassus and Heinrich Isaac.
    The Magnificat Consort with Philip Cave in vocal music inspired by Girolamo Savonarola.


    Was the Renaissance a kind of authority against which people could rebel?
    People like the Flat Earthers, and those who insisted the sun went round earth, not the other way around, I would guess dovers.

    (Oh, and I'd always thought Savonarola was some kind of cereal )

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      #3
      Originally posted by doversoul1 View Post
      Was the Renaissance a kind of authority against which people could rebel?
      Perhaps a "prevalent set of ideas & beliefs" rather than an "authority"?
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • jean
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        • Nov 2010
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        #4
        The same sort of thing that (we're told) Gesualdo was anti-?

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        • Richard Barrett
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          • Jan 2016
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          #5
          Originally posted by doversoul1 View Post
          Was the Renaissance a kind of authority against which people could rebel?
          What Savonarola spent much of his time preaching against was the secular art and culture typical of the Renaissance period, as in his "bonfires of the vanities" - a reactionary rather than a rebel, surely.

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          • teamsaint
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            • Nov 2010
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            #6
            Which renaissance ?

            I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

            I am not a number, I am a free man.

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            • Richard Tarleton

              #7
              Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
              What Savonarola spent much of his time preaching against was the secular art and culture typical of the Renaissance period, as in his "bonfires of the vanities" - a reactionary rather than a rebel, surely.
              ...the setting for George Eliot's Romola, which I read about 50 years ago....

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                #8
                Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                What Savonarola spent much of his time preaching against was the secular art and culture typical of the Renaissance period, as in his "bonfires of the vanities" - a reactionary rather than a rebel, surely.
                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                • doversoul1
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                  • Dec 2010
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by jean View Post
                  The same sort of thing that (we're told) Gesualdo was anti-?
                  That was/is my impression.

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                  • richardfinegold
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                    • Sep 2012
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
                    ...the setting for George Eliot's Romola, which I read about 50 years ago....
                    Irving Stone’s historical novel of Michelangelo, The Agony and The Ectasy, also had a substantial section devoted to the Rise and Fall of Savanorola, and similar to Richard T. I haven’t read that book for decades. As per Richard B ‘s comments (does that make me Richard III?), my recollection of Stone’s portrayal was that S. was what Americans would refer to as a Bible Thumping Fundamendalist and that he also was directly challenging the authority of the Medici Clan, who were portrayed as the exemplars of Enlightenment.

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                    • Serial_Apologist
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                      • Dec 2010
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                      Irving Stone’s historical novel of Michelangelo, The Agony and The Ectasy, also had a substantial section devoted to the Rise and Fall of Savanorola, and similar to Richard T. I haven’t read that book for decades. As per Richard B ‘s comments (does that make me Richard III?), my recollection of Stone’s portrayal was that S. was what Americans would refer to as a Bible Thumping Fundamendalist and that he also was directly challenging the authority of the Medici Clan, who were portrayed as the exemplars of Enlightenment.
                      Well they didn't have Ecstasy back then, but they certainly had their bible-thumping fundamentalists!

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                      • doversoul1
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                        • Dec 2010
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                        #12
                        I don’t think I had come across The Magnificat Consor but I thought they were very good and so was their programme. Glory or not, it was a most enjoyable concert.

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