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  • doversoul1
    Ex Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 7132

    The Gesualdo Legacy: EMS 6 November

    Fiona Talkington looks at the legacy of Carlo Gesualdo and the fascination that his life and music held for certain 20th century cultural figures, including composers Igor Stravinsky and Peter Maxwell Davies, novelist Aldous Huxley and film maker Werner Herzog. The programme includes an interview with Professor Glenn Watkins, who has written extensively about Gesualdo's life, work and influence.
    Fiona Talkington on the continuing fascination with the life and works of Carlo Gesualdo.
  • Bryn
    Banned
    • Mar 2007
    • 24688

    #2
    Originally posted by doversoul1 View Post
    Fiona Talkington looks at the legacy of Carlo Gesualdo and the fascination that his life and music held for certain 20th century cultural figures, including composers Igor Stravinsky and Peter Maxwell Davies, novelist Aldous Huxley and film maker Werner Herzog. The programme includes an interview with Professor Glenn Watkins, who has written extensively about Gesualdo's life, work and influence.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b081t4qp
    Strange no mention there of Schnittke.

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      #3
      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
      Strange no mention there of Schnittke.
      Nor Sciarrino:

      Transcription d'après Carlo Gesualdo1. "Gagliarda del Principe di Venosa"2. "Tu m'uccidi, o crudele"3. "Canzon francese del Principe"4. "Moro, Lasso"Premiere...


      Wizualizacje do opery w dwóch aktach "Luci mie traditrici" według libretta Salvatore Sciarrino. W nagraniu projekcji wystąpili m.in. Andrzej Chyra i Jacek P...


      (although the "including" might mean that they may be mentioned during the course of the programme.)
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • Richard Tarleton

        #4
        This was the subject of an EMS in [?] 2010 by Catherine Bott, whose guest was, er, Glenn Watkins.

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        • Richard Barrett
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          • Jan 2016
          • 6259

          #5
          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          Nor Sciarrino
          I just had a listen to Le voci sottovetro and thought to myself that actually every "modernisation" of Gesualdo that I've heard, whether by Sciarrino, Stravinsky or anyone else, comes over as somehow tame compared to the originals. I think it has to do with intonation and the homogeneous sound of "modern" instruments.

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          • doversoul1
            Ex Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 7132

            #6
            Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
            This was the subject of an EMS in [?] 2010 by Catherine Bott, whose guest was, er, Glenn Watkins.
            This was in 2013. Catherine Bott talks to er… Professor Glenn Watkins
            Catherine Bott and Professor Glenn Watkins talk about the controversial life of Gesualdo.


            This latest programme was interesting but I didn’t find Prof. Watkins a very good radio speaker.

            The programme made me want to listen to more works by Gesualdo but not, I’m afraid those by the modern composers. These works may be interesting on their own but when there is the expectation of being something like or something to do with Gesualdo, to me, they are just not extraordinary enough..

            I found the Hilliard a bit polite.

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            • Richard Tarleton

              #7
              Originally posted by doversoul1 View Post
              This was in 2013. Catherine Bott talks to er… Professor Glenn Watkins
              Catherine Bott and Professor Glenn Watkins talk about the controversial life of Gesualdo.


              This latest programme was interesting but I didn’t find Prof. Watkins a very good radio speaker.

              The programme made me want to listen to more works by Gesualdo but not, I’m afraid those by the modern composers. These works may be interesting on their own but when there is the expectation of being something like or something to do with Gesualdo, to me, they are just not extraordinary enough..

              I found the Hilliard a bit polite.
              Yes, couldn't remember the date, Watkins's fascinating book (The Gesualdo Hex, which I bought on the strength of the programme) was published in 2010. Good to know that for someone in Gesualdo's position, offing your wife and her lover, far from being reprehensible, was socially obligatory in the circs

              I have the Hilliards' Tenebrae on EMS (complete with EMS's trademark impenetrable notes and posy B&W photography), plus the Madrigals on Naxos. Extraordinary music. Not sure I find the Hilliards polite....having seen them live in St David's Cathedral with Jan Garbarek (not doing Gesualdo) I find them quite edgy, really.

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              • Old Grumpy
                Full Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 3611

                #8
                Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
                I have the Hilliards' Tenebrae on EMS (complete with EMS's trademark impenetrable notes and posy B&W photography), plus the Madrigals on Naxos. Extraordinary music. Not sure I find the Hilliards polite....having seen them live in St David's Cathedral with Jan Garbarek (not doing Gesualdo) I find them quite edgy, really.
                EMS? Shurely shome mishtake?

                ECM - from the description


                OG

                P.S. I think I have this too somewhere - ECM it will be

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                • Richard Tarleton

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
                  EMS? Shurely shome mishtake?

                  ECM - from the description


                  OG



                  P.S. I think I have this too somewhere - ECM it will be
                  ECM it is! The other characteristic of their discs is that you're lucky to get much more than 45 minutes to a disc

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                  • Quarky
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 2658

                    #10
                    Won't say I enjoyed the programme - it was too much of an earful and packed with information to permit relaxation.

                    But it was for me a significant programme, and I will probably listen to it several times. It may partially clarify as to why I like "modern" music and "early" music, but these days not much in between.

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                    • ardcarp
                      Late member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 11102

                      #11
                      IMO, one of the best groups specialising in the extremes of Gesualdo is Exaudi. They also specialise in contempoaray music, especially that of Finnissy and of their director James Weeks. So they might be right up your street, Oddball.

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                      • Quarky
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 2658

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                        IMO, one of the best groups specialising in the extremes of Gesualdo is Exaudi. They also specialise in contempoaray music, especially that of Finnissy and of their director James Weeks. So they might be right up your street, Oddball.
                        Many thanks for the tip. ardcarp. That seems a fruitful source for investigation!

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                        • Quarky
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 2658

                          #13
                          There is a Discovering Music episode, which I am currently listening to:



                          Gesualdo / Exaudi - the programme seems a grade above Fiona's.

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                          • Serial_Apologist
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                            • Dec 2010
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by doversoul1 View Post

                            The programme made me want to listen to more works by Gesualdo but not, I’m afraid those by the modern composers. These works may be interesting on their own but when there is the expectation of being something like or something to do with Gesualdo, to me, they are just not extraordinary enough..

                            I found the Hilliard a bit polite.


                            You are a difficult person to please, DS!

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                            • doversoul1
                              Ex Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 7132

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post


                              You are a difficult person to please, DS!
                              ...to be ignored

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