Reinhard Goebel's Archiv box set

[richardfinegold]

Yes, that is the one drawback about boxes like this. I'm fortunate in that I have most of the original releases with all the notes. I often think that companies such as DG should realise that serious collectors - and you would be one to go for a box this big - would happily pay a bit extra for those precious notes. They are such an important part of a release like this.

They should put the original notes on a website and provide a link

[MickyD]

Well that would help, but I still believe that anoraks like me appreciate the printed page with their CDs!

[AuntDaisy]

Well that would help, but I still believe that anoraks like me appreciate the printed page with their CDs!

You'd think a 200 page RG booklet would have space for them.
Although, sometimes you can find scans of booklets on the Naxos Music Library (which I access via our local Library).

[MickyD]

Indeed, that seems like a wasted opportunity. I haven't seen the book yet as it is my Christmas present! Is it well done?

[AuntDaisy]

Indeed, that seems like a wasted opportunity. I haven't seen the book yet as it is my Christmas present! Is it well done?

Yes & no (helpful as ever).
There are track listings, performer & recording information and lots of photographs. The "I was a troublemaker" interview is interesting, as is the "Early Music as New Music" essay, but I'd rather have had the original booklets from the CDs.
It's still a wonderful set and, unlike other forumites, I only had a few of the disks already. It's also quite compact (& shelf space is always a problem).
Still, slowly, working my way through them...

[MickyD]

Thanks for that, I'm looking forward to Christmas morning! I gather there is also an extra CD of an interview with Goebel...is it in English?

[AuntDaisy]

Thanks for that, I'm looking forward to Christmas morning! I gather there is also an extra CD of an interview with Goebel...is it in English?

Sadly not, it's in German & RH speaks very quickly / enthusiastically - there are musical extracts in between. (I listened to it earlier, my schoolboy German really wasn't up to it.)

[richardfinegold]

Well that would help, but I still believe that anoraks like me appreciate the printed page with their CDs!

That would be preferred but at least putting them on the web would make them available in some form. To have them completely unavailable is frustrating. There are several dozen discs here by unknown composers, many of whom were exhumed by MAK

[MickyD]

That would be preferred but at least putting them on the web would make them available in some form. To have them completely unavailable is frustrating. There are several dozen discs here by unknown composers, many of whom were exhumed by MAK

I quite agree, some of the composers certainly aren't household names. It's really rather disrespectful of DG to it's customers to be so cavalier, even more so when they originally went to the trouble and expense of providing good notes for the original issues. How can they justify not providing anything at all?

[AuntDaisy]

I quite agree, some of the composers certainly aren't household names. It's really rather disrespectful of DG to it's customers to be so cavalier, even more so when they originally went to the trouble and expense of providing good notes for the original issues. How can they justify not providing anything at all?

The 5 CD Bach Kammermusik set came with a lovely 36 page booklet - but I'm keeping the original Archiv discs, even though they're now duplicates.
Yes, a CD with PDFs of the booklets would be easy for them to do - I also like richardfinegold's web idea (Argo did it for their Shakespeare box - & it corrected the printed booklet errors).

It's much the same with the Pinnock box, although there is a much bigger (& far more interesting) booklet.

[kernelbogey]

"Actuellement indisponible"....
I very nearly broke my self--imposed Amazon ban....

[MickyD]

"Actuellement indisponible"....
I very nearly broke my self--imposed Amazon ban....

Oh that's a shame, looks like they've sold out at that price... maybe I should ask for commission !😂

[MickyD]

Christmas Day over and I've finally got my hands on this box. Nicely packaged.

I find it a little odd that the Haydn keyboard concertos under Ton Koopman were included, bearing in mind the recordings were made for Philips. Was this a crafty way of bringing the box up to the magic figure of 75 discs? Still it's good to have them. The original LP set ran to 4 discs.

[Dave2002]

Yes, that is the one drawback about boxes like this. I'm fortunate in that I have most of the original releases with all the notes. I often think that companies such as DG should realise that serious collectors - and you would be one to go for a box this big - would happily pay a bit extra for those precious notes. They are such an important part of a release like this.

I now have a copy of this set, which was kindly bought for me as a Christmas present. Indeed it was supplied - presumably from France [though I'm often suspicious that Amazon supplied objects might just go via a sort of virtual Europe [in this case France] - with paperwork to prove it - and then get sent on via a depot near Dunfermline. There were carriage charges - as specified, but no additional charges or deductions by HMRC for import tariffs.

I've not bought anything from mainland Europe since the Brexit debacle, but may now resume such purchases if there are items of interest, either bargains, or items which are otherwise unobtainable.

I've yet to open the box, but I"m hoping to sample it in the next few days.

[oliver sudden]

Christmas Day over and I've finally got my hands on this box. Nicely packaged.

I find it a little odd that the Haydn keyboard concertos under Ton Koopman were included, bearing in mind the recordings were made for Philips. Was this a crafty way of bringing the box up to the magic figure of 75 discs? Still it's good to have them. The original LP set ran to 4 discs.

I am reminded of the Decca Haydn 107 box, which includes a substantial amount of 18c/Bruggen material which of course was all Philips. Universal certainly play fast and loose with their label names when it suits them.