Music in 18th-century Newcastle.

[doversoul1]

Music in 18th-century Newcastle. Lucie Skeaping talks to Rosemary Southey of Newcastle University about the musical scene in the north-east of England in the eighteenth century, with works by Avison, John Garth and Herschel.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05xq4r4

[Old Grumpy]

Music in 18th-century Newcastle. Lucie Skeaping talks to Rosemary Southey of Newcastle University about the musical scene in the north-east of England in the eighteenth century, with works by Avison, John Garth and Herschel.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05xq4r4

OG

[antongould]

Thanks for this doversoul I had missed it...............

[Serial_Apologist]

I hadn't realised music had reached that far north by the 18th century.

(Only joking! )

[richardfinegold]

I hadn't realised music had reached that far north by the 18th century.

(Only joking! )

This is OT, but what wasthe economy of 18th Century Newcastle? Presumably it wasn't coal mining since the Industrial Revolution hadn't revved up....

[ardcarp]

I think any major sea-port had a 'history' and thus an economy which pre-dated the Industrial Revolution. Newcastle was also, I think, a bulwark against the wicked Scots.

This might be interesting:

http://www.englandsnortheast.co.uk/NewcastleuponTyne.html

...and inevitably Wiki has something to say about the place too.

[teamsaint]

Talking of Keels, A bit off topic,well completely off topic actually and even the wrong century,but interesting nontheless, is the history of professional rowing in The C19 on the Tyne , as well as the Thames and other major rivers.

More or less forgotten now,some of these guys were major celebrities of a sport that spanned the empire.
HUge crowds were common on the Tyne. There was even a town in Canada named after one of the best Rowers.

Big prizes were up for grabs, which ,when doing some work on this, I calculated to be at least £100k in todays value.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/tyne/features/rowing/rowinghistory.shtml

[Serial_Apologist]

Talking of Keels, A bit off topic,well completely off topic actually and even the wrong century,but interesting nontheless, is the history of professional rowing in The C19 on the Tyne , as well as the Thames and other major rivers.

More or less forgotten,some of these guys were major celebrities of a sport that spanned the empire.
HUge crowds were common on the Tyne. There was even a town in Canada named after one of the best Rowers.

Big prizes were up for grabs, which ,when doing some work on this, I calculated to be at least £100k in todays value.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/tyne/features/r...ghistory.shtml

Oar-inspiring!

[Beef Oven!]

Music in 18th-century Newcastle. Lucie Skeaping talks to Rosemary Southey of Newcastle University about the musical scene in the north-east of England in the eighteenth century, with works by Avison, John Garth and Herschel.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05xq4r4

Thanks for the heads-up on this, doversoul. I tuned in this afternoon and enjoyed a most interesting programme with great music

[doversoul1]

Thanks for the heads-up on this, doversoul. I tuned in this afternoon and enjoyed a most interesting programme with great music

Off the beaten track in more than one sense.

The guest was very good, as the EMS’s guests usually are.

[Old Grumpy]

Off the beaten track in more than one sense.

Dovers, Newcastle is not off the beaten track - it was a major staging post on the journey between London and Edinburgh, as was made clear in the programme. Charles Avison and his music are well known to us in the North East. I agree, an excellent programme.




OG

As an aside, I have always wondered why : ale : has the handle to the left and : ela : has the handle to the right - something sinister going on there...

[For the record - in case you see it, OG: : ale : was pinched from the old BBC board and I invented :ela : as the reverse because it fitted better with Mere whimsy - ff]

[doversoul1]

Oh, I don’t know. I imagine it was that (off the beaten track) to a lot of the regulars of Handel’s operas in London. Was Charles Avison known in London (it’s all relative, as Beefy sais elsewhere)?

Are there any other cities/towns in Britain where music thrived in the same way in the 18 century?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Oh, I don’t know. I imagine it was that (off the beaten track) to a lot of the regulars of Handel’s operas in London. Was Charles Avison known in London (it’s all relative, as Beefy sais elsewhere)?

Are there any other cities/towns in Britain where music thrived in the same way in the 18 century?

Chichester? (See John Marsh and his diaries.)

[teamsaint]

this looks to contain plenty of interesting material, although obviously not just the century in question.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=g7WAb87qB94C&pg=PA133&lpg=PA133&dq=music+in+eighteenth+century+salisbury&source=bl&ots=m09_kR7U4d&sig=Ah8HZa3ju_8v05rbd0stLGR4IOc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=NLF0VZ_BDY2p7Aby-oLoBA&ved=0CE0Q6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=music%20in%20eighteenth%20century%20salisbury&f=false

[doversoul1]

Chichester? (See John Marsh and his diaries.)

Oh, bother, too late. I was going to delete my last post, as I remembered that the guest mentioned a few places, and played a work by John Garth from Durham.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Garth_(composer)