Andreas Scholl live at Wigmore Hall: Monday 17th

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  • doversoul1
    Ex Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 7132

    Andreas Scholl live at Wigmore Hall: Monday 17th

    Monday Lunchtime Concert
    A bit early but this will be interesting. Whether I like it or not will be another matter.

    Andreas Scholl (countertenor)
    Tamar Halperin (piano)

    Joseph Kilna MacKenzie: Sergeant MacKenzie
    Randy Newman: In Germany Before the War
    Chava Alberstein: Ikh shtey unter a Bokserboym
    Machaut (arr.Theo Bleckmann): Douce Dame Jolie
    Trad: The Death of Queen Jane
    Janacek: Our Evenings from On an Overgrown Path
    Sasha Argov: Shir Éress - "Lullaby"
    Britten: Down by the Salley Gardens
    Britten: Greensleeves
    Britten: The Ash Grove
    Debussy: Jimbo's Lullaby from Children's Corner
    Trad (arr. Tamar Halperin): Black is the colour of my true love's hair
    Trad (arr. Tamar Halperin): I will give my love an apple
    Brahms: All mein Gedanken
    Brahms: Da unten im Tale
    Brahms: In stiller Nacht


    Incidentally, this might be of interest to those who like contertenors

    Lunchtime Concert live from Wigmore Hall: Monday 8 December
    Philippe Jaroussky and Ensemble Artaserse
    Vivaldi
    Concerto for strings in C minor RV120
    Stabat Mater RV621
    Concerto for strings in D RV123
    Longe mala, umbrae, terrores RV629
  • Miles Coverdale
    Late Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 639

    #2
    I don't think I've ever seen Randy Newman and Machaut in the same programme before.
    My boxes are positively disintegrating under the sheer weight of ticks. Ed Reardon

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    • doversoul1
      Ex Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 7132

      #3
      Today at 1.00pm

      Anyone planning to listen? I am rather apprehensive about the programme but will listen if on iPlayer.

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      • vinteuil
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 12957

        #4
        Originally posted by doversoul View Post

        Anyone planning to listen?
        ... nope. It is an odd congeries of works and styles. I might try and catch the Brahms at the end.

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        • jean
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 7100

          #5
          I will listen because I'd listen to anything he did, but I may not like much of it.

          Is this one Yiddish? I might like that:

          Chava Alberstein: Ikh shtey unter a Bokserboym

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          • jean
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 7100

            #6
            'The Yiddish title of this song is "איך שטײ אונטער אַ באָקסערבױם". The English translation is "I Stand Beneath a Carob Tree". '

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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26575

              #7
              Wonderful sequence, esp the final Yiddish one...

              But did I hear some sort of disturbance in the hall? A woman's voice loudly speaking German could be heard a couple of times....
              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • Mary Chambers
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 1963

                #8
                I was completely mesmerised. Those who didn't listen because of the unusual repertoire missed something special, I think. Only the other day I was complaining to a friend that there are no really individual performers, particularly singers, any more. Well, here's one.

                (I could quibble about his Sally Gardens, though. Needed to be more legato.)

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                • french frank
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                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30519

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jean View Post
                  'The Yiddish title of this song is "איך שטײ אונטער אַ באָקסערבױם". The English translation is "I Stand Beneath a Carob Tree". '
                  Thank you - I was about to ask what a Bokserboym was (Barenboim means Pear Tree, doesn't it?).
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • jean
                    Late member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7100

                    #10
                    I think his English pronunciation has improved a lot since he first recorded English folk songs a while ago, but it still has some oddities.

                    I have Alfred Deller singing that lovely song about Queen Jane (Seymour, it must be) and he stands comparison.

                    I wish he had not used the Britten settings of the other English folksongs, though. They're really horrible.

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                    • Tony Halstead
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 1717

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Mary Chambers View Post
                      I was completely mesmerised. Those who didn't listen because of the unusual repertoire missed something special, I think. Only the other day I was complaining to a friend that there are no really individual performers, particularly singers, any more. Well, here's one.

                      (I could quibble about his Sally Gardens, though. Needed to be more legato.)
                      Superb throughout!
                      I particularly enjoyed his singing of those wonderful, enchanting Britten arrangements.

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                      • Mary Chambers
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 1963

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jean View Post

                        I wish he had not used the Britten settings of the other English folksongs, though. They're really horrible.
                        What? Actually I didn't know the Greensleeves one, and didn't like it much at first hearing. I love the others, and have a particularly soft spot for The Ash Grove, especially the blackbird.

                        I remember in the '60s and '70s there was a bit of an outcry from 'genuine' folk singers of the more traditional kind about the Britten settings. Far too arty and not earthy enough.

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                        • teamsaint
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #13
                          I do hope somebody here writes something thoughtful and in a bit of depth about the performance of the Randy Newman song.

                          if not I will try......

                          ( heard the first half of the concert, and you certainly can't fault the attempt to do something interesting, at least.....)
                          Last edited by teamsaint; 17-11-14, 14:49.
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                          • Stanley Stewart
                            Late Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1071

                            #14
                            A most refreshing Lunchtime Concert with so many novelties. I managed to record the Britten arrangements on MD and Tamar Halperin's inclusion of Debussy's Jimbo's Lullaby was a particular delight. I'll listen again to next Sunday's repeat, (23 Nov) on R3, 1pm.

                            In the meantime, I've got the Randy Newman Songbook CD, Vol 1, off the shelves as it also contains Germany Before the War and, more apt, I Think It's Going To Rain Today!

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                            • doversoul1
                              Ex Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 7132

                              #15
                              Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                              I do hope somebody here writes something thoughtful and in a bit of depth about the performance of the Randy Newman song.

                              if not I will try......
                              Yes, please. And what are we (am I) to think about the switching between baritone and countertenor (falsetto)? I found it all rather disconcerting.

                              ( heard the first half of the concert, and you certainly can't fault the attempt to do something interesting, at least.....)
                              Quite agree. However, I don’t mind a folksong arrangement or two for the encore but I find almost an hour of it quite honestly boring (just my taste). Out of comfort zone, says SMP. I find this rather too comfortable (Scholl has been singing folksong-like repertoire for some 20 years).

                              This is entirely my taste but now that I have become so used to the voices of the likes of Iestyn Davies, Scholl's voice (as it sounds now) sounds distinctly previous-generation like (to me).

                              Oh, we were told by the presenter that Andreas Scholl was known by his perfectly tuned voice…. You’d have thought we were about to hear one of the New Generation Artists…
                              Last edited by doversoul1; 17-11-14, 19:55.

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