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  • Stunsworth
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 1553

    #16
    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
    I share your and Steve's HO... watchable enough but it feels like a Tintin adventure, 'The Salamander Affair', with many of the characters rather comic-book looking...

    Also for a secret organisation they seem quite keen to let people know they exist, and what they're about.
    Steve

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    • BBMmk2
      Late Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 20908

      #17
      john McCabe composed a work called 'Salamander'(I think?) Yes, after looking up, it was written in 1994 for brass band! :)
      Don’t cry for me
      I go where music was born

      J S Bach 1685-1750

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        #18
        Originally posted by Stunsworth View Post
        Also for a secret organisation they seem quite keen to let people know they exist, and what they're about.
        - yes; key rings, cufflinks - I wonder if they have a Gift Shop. Riddled with clichés as it is, I'm enjoying the romp, glad to have a change from psycho S&M murders. But the last scene of the last episode was a shock.
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • Anna

          #19
          Agree with all the above, it seems very dated, very macho, and could probably have been condensed into ten episodes. However, I'm still interested to know what binds the Salamanders together. We know it's about WW2, the date on the photos are 1944 (significant), it's probably more about collaborators than the Resistance I imagine. Oh, and probably art thefts and Nazi gold - just to cover all possibilities!
          Actually, if anyone knows the answer please tell me so I don't have to watch it anymore.

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          • aka Calum Da Jazbo
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 9173

            #20
            ... meanwhile Line of Duty and Inspector Gently have been rather good ...
            According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
              Gone fishin'
              • Sep 2011
              • 30163

              #21
              Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
              ... meanwhile Line of Duty and Inspector Gently have been rather good ...
              - Keeley Hawes (whom I have previously thought of as a lightweight character actress) has given a career-changing performance. Whew! Emotionally fraught or what?! (Answering "yes" or "no" only.)
              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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              • antongould
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 8780

                #22
                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                - Keeley Hawes (whom I have previously thought of as a lightweight character actress) has given a career-changing performance. Whew! Emotionally fraught or what?! (Answering "yes" or "no" only.)
                Couldn't agree more Ferney ......but did she do it?

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  #23
                  Originally posted by antongould View Post
                  Couldn't agree more Ferney ......but did she do it?
                  Her innocence is looking clearer with each episode. So; probably, yes she did!
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • Anna

                    #24
                    Did anyone stick with Salamander to the end? I didn't and really don't wish to spend 3 hours on iplayer catching up. Basically can anyone tell me what united the 66 and what their evil scheme was or was it just they were all collaborators and/or Neo-Nazis and there was no evil scheme? I got as far as Jonkhere being the son of the collaborator who betrayed the father of Wolf who wanted revenge. There is an Italian detective starting tonight, set in 1938, Mussolini, Fascists, etc., wonder if that's worth a viewing?

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                    • EnemyoftheStoat
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 1132

                      #25
                      I could explain it but it would be in a mixture of Flemish and French.

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                      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                        Gone fishin'
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 30163

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Anna View Post
                        Did anyone stick with Salamander to the end? I didn't and really don't wish to spend 3 hours on iplayer catching up. Basically can anyone tell me what united the 66 and what their evil scheme was or was it just they were all collaborators and/or Neo-Nazis and there was no evil scheme? I got as far as Jonkhere being the son of the collaborator who betrayed the father of Wolf who wanted revenge. There is an Italian detective starting tonight, set in 1938, Mussolini, Fascists, etc., wonder if that's worth a viewing?
                        Yes, I did the course - which rather fizzled out as if even it lost interest in itself! The 66 were prominent public officials given posts by a hidden syndicate who wished to ensure that power wasn't achieved by anyone who might disturb their life style. You got the rest of it - basically, the plot was "resolved" by a lot of people shooting each other.

                        The new series looks much more promising.
                        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                        • Nick Armstrong
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 26523

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Anna View Post
                          Did anyone stick with Salamander to the end? I didn't and really don't wish to spend 3 hours on iplayer catching up. Basically can anyone tell me what united the 66 and what their evil scheme was or was it just they were all collaborators and/or Neo-Nazis and there was no evil scheme? I got as far as Jonkhere being the son of the collaborator who betrayed the father of Wolf who wanted revenge
                          Yes, I did! Yes, the point was that the scheme was in fact not so evil - Wolf (who kept drifting off into those rather annoying sepia flashbacks of his adolescence as a norphan o' the Belgian equivalent of Chancery) was getting his own back (big time) at Jonkhere and his bank and all the 66 people who'd benefited from their patronage - the motive being that the whole thing was built on the money and gems sent to the Belgian resistance in that WW2 parachute drop and nicked by Jonkhere père, who covered his tracks by accusing Wolf père who was then condemned as a traitor. It came to light that Jonkhere père's double-cross had actually been witnessed by another of the resistants - his son had tracked down Wolfs and told him the whole story which is why Wolfs sold his successful business and embarked on The Scheme....

                          At the end Gerardi and Wolfs realised they were both on the same side (wanting to get Jonkhere, who had blown up Mrs Gerardi) so they made common cause in the final episode and got the bad guys
                          "...the isle is full of noises,
                          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                          • Anna

                            #28
                            Thanks ferney and Cali It seems there's some better stuff on BBC4 (more scandi) but quite a lot later in the year, might have a peek at the Italian offering ..... I did watch Shetland which I thought ok but could have done with subtitles!!

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                            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                              Gone fishin'
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 30163

                              #29
                              Oh, Shetland was excellent - I totally missed who had done what to whom and why.

                              EDIT: Well, not really "to whom", exactly ... that bit was quite clear.
                              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                              • Nick Armstrong
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26523

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Anna View Post
                                Thanks ferney and Cali It seems there's some better stuff on BBC4 (more scandi) but quite a lot later in the year, might have a peek at the Italian offering ..... I did watch Shetland which I thought ok but could have done with subtitles!!
                                We DID put on the subtitles for Shetland! - for Brian Cox's sections, anyway! He was SO good, a start turn.... it's a very good series I think. It owes much to the fashion for Scandi-gloom, that said.
                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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