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  • vinteuil
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 12955

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    The world is too much with us ; late and soon,

    Getting and spending, we lay waste our powers :

    Little we see in Nature that is ours ;

    We have given our hearts away, a sordid boon !

    This Sea that bares her bosom to the moon ;

    The Winds that will be howling at all hours

    And are up-gathered now like sleeping flowers ;

    For this, for everything, we are out of tune ;

    It moves us not - Great God ! I’d rather be

    A Pagan suckled in a creed outworn ;

    So might I, standing on this pleasant lea,

    Have glimpses that would make me less forlorn ;

    Have sight of Proteus rising from the sea ;

    Or hear old Triton blow his wreathèd horn.





    William Wordsworth [1770-1850]

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    Last edited by vinteuil; 31-01-19, 16:35. Reason: restoring original punctuation

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    • vinteuil
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 12955

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      "To whom thus Adam gratefully replied.
      Ascend, I follow thee, safe Guide, the path
      Thou leadest me; and to the hand of Heaven submit,
      However chastening; to the evil turn
      My obvious breast; arming to overcome
      By suffering, and earn rest from labour won,
      If so I may attain. -- So both ascend
      In the visions of God. It was a hill,
      Of Paradise the highest; from whose top
      The hemisphere of earth, in clearest ken,
      Stretched out to the amplest reach of prospect lay.
      Not higher that hill, nor wider looking round,
      Whereon, for different cause, the Tempter set
      Our second Adam, in the wilderness;
      To show him all Earth's kingdoms, and their glory.
      His eye might there command wherever stood
      City of old or modern fame, the seat
      Of mightiest empire, from the destined walls
      Of Cambalu, seat of Cathaian Can,
      And Samarchand by Oxus, Temir's throne,
      To Paquin of Sinæan kings; and thence
      To Agra and Lahor of great Mogul,
      Down to the golden Chersonese; or where
      The Persian in Ecbatan sat, or since
      In Hispahan; or where the Russian Ksar
      In Mosco; or the Sultan in Bizance,
      Turchestan-born; nor could his eye not ken
      The empire of Negus to his utmost port
      Ercoco, and the less maritime kings
      Mombaza, and Quiloa, and Melind,
      And Sofala, thought Ophir, to the realm
      Of Congo, and Angola farthest south;
      Or thence from Niger flood to Atlas mount
      The kingdoms of Almansor, Fez and Sus,
      Morocco, and Algiers, and Tremisen;
      On Europe thence, and where Rome was to sway
      The world: in spirit perhaps he also saw
      Rich Mexico, the seat of Montezume,
      And Cusco in Peru, the richer seat
      Of Atabalipa; and yet unspoiled
      Guiana, whose great city Geryon's sons
      Call El Dorado... "


      'Paradise Lost' Book XI, ll. 370-411

      John Milton [1608-1674]

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      • Padraig
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        • Feb 2013
        • 4251

        Great sonnet, v. Brings me back to my sole self of years ago, and the intake of breath at line five from our sensitive teacher. Even so, we all loved it - a prophetic reference to a 21st century Green New Deal? It stayed with me anyway.
        What was 'wrong' with your original post that you had to change the punctuation?

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        • vinteuil
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 12955

          Originally posted by Padraig View Post
          Great sonnet, v. ...
          What was 'wrong' with your original post that you had to change the punctuation?
          ... being a HIPP type, I like where possible to have the poems in their original form. Having copied and pasted the sonnet from the interweb I compared it with the original printing in "Poems in two volumes" of 1807, and 'corrected' the punctuation to agree with that. Actually Wordsworth was notoriously unsure of his own punctuation, and wd send his stuff to Humphry Davy asking him to put in whatever punctuation he felt right...

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          • vinteuil
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            • Nov 2010
            • 12955

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            ... more Wordsworth from the 1807 volume, also curiously relevant to today, I feel ...



            Milton ! thou shouldst be living at this hour :

            England hath need of thee : she is a fen

            Of stagnant waters : altar, sword and pen,

            Fireside, the heroic wealth of hall and bower,

            Have forfeited their ancient English dower

            Of inward happiness. We are selfish men ;

            Oh ! raise us up, return to us again ;

            And give us manners, virtue, freedom, power.

            Thy soul was like a Star and dwelt apart :

            Thou hadst a voice whose sound was like the sea ;

            Pure as the naked heavens, majestic, free,

            So didst thou travel on life's common way,

            In cheerful godliness ; and yet thy heart

            The lowliest duties on herself did lay.

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            • Joseph K
              Banned
              • Oct 2017
              • 7765

              Another one of my modest efforts, written just over a year ago:

              My fear about the future is our weather
              becoming more extreme through climate change –
              an urgent challenge we must face together
              against a new world president deranged –
              if we are to preserve this life on Earth
              we must channel exciting new advances
              in science, proving humankind’s great worth.
              But while money plays the tune everyone dances
              to capitalism’s need for endless growth,
              the root of all our problems is to squander
              our resources for profit – if we’re loath
              to stop this our grandchildren will be left to ponder
              the consequences of our folly, blending
              hubris with greed – our Earth’s not never-ending!

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              • Padraig
                Full Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 4251

                If this thread were a radio programme, I would suggest, Joseph, that your sonnet would be one to follow Wordsworth's, above - The world is too much with us. I'm sure they would read out all three of our names.

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                • Joseph K
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2017
                  • 7765

                  Originally posted by Padraig View Post
                  If this thread were a radio programme, I would suggest, Joseph, that your sonnet would be one to follow Wordsworth's, above - The world is too much with us. I'm sure they would read out all three of our names.

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                  • johncorrigan
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 10424

                    Originally posted by Joseph K View Post
                    Another one of my modest efforts, written just over a year ago:

                    My fear about the future is our weather
                    becoming more extreme through climate change –
                    an urgent challenge we must face together
                    against a new world president deranged –
                    if we are to preserve this life on Earth
                    we must channel exciting new advances
                    in science, proving humankind’s great worth.
                    But while money plays the tune everyone dances
                    to capitalism’s need for endless growth,
                    the root of all our problems is to squander
                    our resources for profit – if we’re loath
                    to stop this our grandchildren will be left to ponder
                    the consequences of our folly, blending
                    hubris with greed – our Earth’s not never-ending!
                    Thank you very much, Joseph.

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                    • greenilex
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 1626

                      The issue of the times - you put your finger on it. Thanks.

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                      • Joseph K
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2017
                        • 7765

                        Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
                        Thank you very much, Joseph.
                        Originally posted by greenilex View Post
                        The issue of the times - you put your finger on it. Thanks.
                        Thanks.

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                        • Padraig
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                          • Feb 2013
                          • 4251

                          Tell all the Truth but tell it slant -
                          Success in Circuit lies
                          Too bright for our infirm Delight
                          The Truth's superb surprise

                          As Lightning to the Children eased
                          With explanation kind
                          The Truth must dazzle gradually
                          Or every man be blind -

                          Emily Dickinson (1830 - 1886)

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                          • vinteuil
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12955

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                            Voltaire at Ferney

                            Perfectly happy now, he looked at his estate.
                            An exile making watches glanced up as he passed
                            And went on working; where a hospital was rising fast,
                            A joiner touched his cap; an agent came to tell
                            Some of the trees he'd planted were progressing well.
                            The white alps glittered. It was summer. He was very great.
                            Far off in Paris where his enemies
                            Whsipered that he was wicked, in an upright chair
                            A blind old woman longed for death and letters. He would write,
                            "Nothing is better than life." But was it? Yes, the fight
                            Against the false and the unfair
                            Was always worth it. So was gardening. Civilize.

                            Cajoling, scolding, screaming, cleverest of them all,
                            He'd had the other children in a holy war
                            Against the infamous grown-ups; and, like a child, been sly
                            And humble, when there was occassion for
                            The two-faced answer or the plain protective lie,
                            But, patient like a peasant, waited for their fall.

                            And never doubted, like D'Alembert, he would win:
                            Only Pascal was a great enemy, the rest
                            Were rats already poisoned; there was much, though, to be done,
                            And only himself to count upon.
                            Dear Diderot was dull but did his best;
                            Rousseau, he'd always known, would blubber and give in.

                            Night fell and made him think of women: Lust
                            Was one of the great teachers; Pascal was a fool.
                            How Emilie had loved astronomy and bed;
                            Pimpette had loved him too, like scandal; he was glad.
                            He'd done his share of weeping for Jerusalem: As a rule,
                            It was the pleasure-haters who became unjust.

                            Yet, like a sentinel, he could not sleep. The night was full of wrong,
                            Earthquakes and executions: soon he would be dead,
                            And still all over Europe stood the horrible nurses
                            Itching to boil their children. Only his verses
                            Perhaps could stop them: He must go on working: Overhead,
                            The uncomplaining stars composed their lucid song.


                            WH Auden [1907-1973]


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                            • greenilex
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1626

                              I have been haunting the grounds of the Ferney chateau but have not yet managed to see inside..the gift shop was good, and I managed to stay in V’s secretary’s house in the town.

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                              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                                Gone fishin'
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 30163

                                Caedmon's Hymn

                                Nū scylun hergan hefaenrīcaes Uard
                                metudæs maecti end his mōdgidanc
                                uerc Uuldurfadur, suē hē uundra gihwaes
                                ēci dryctin ōr āstelidæ
                                hē ǣrist scōp aelda barnum
                                heben til hrōfe, hāleg scepen
                                ða middungeard moncynnæs Uard
                                eci Dryctin, æfter tīadæ
                                firum foldu, Frēa allmectig.


                                Now must we praise the prince ("guardian") of the kingdom of Heaven
                                The Mighty maker and His mind-paths ("imagination", "design"?)
                                The work of the Glorious father as each of his wonders
                                the eternal Lord established from the very beginning
                                He first shaped for the sons of men
                                Heaven as a roof Holy Creator
                                (then)The World the guardian of Mankind
                                the Eternal Lord (and) afterwards
                                the Solid ground the almighty lord.
                                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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