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  • Pabmusic
    Full Member
    • May 2011
    • 5537

    EASTER HYMN

    If in that Syrian garden, ages slain,
    You sleep, and know not you are dead in vain,
    Nor even in dreams behold how dark or bright
    Ascends in smoke and fire by day and night
    The hate you died to quench and could but fan,
    Sleep well and see no morning, son of man.

    But if, the grave rent and the stone rolled by,
    At the right hand of majesty on high
    You sit, and sitting so remember yet
    Your tears, your agony and bloody sweat,
    Your cross and passion and the life you gave,
    Bow hither out of heaven and see and save.

    A. E. Housman

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    • johncorrigan
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 10358

      If, like me, you love Edinburgh, take this short walk by the Meadows in the company of the great MacCaig.

      Edinburgh Stroll



      I leave the Tollcross traffic and walk by the Meadows between two rows of trees, all looking
      as grave as Elders of the Kirk – but
      wait till the wind blows.



      Dogs are hunting for smells. A few men are practising approach shots
      on the dwarfish golf course. Some children are incomprehensibly playing.



      And between two heaps of jackets a boy scores a goal –
      the best one ever.



      Past the Infirmary I go back to the traffic, cross it, and there’s Sandy Bell’s Bar.



      Tollcross to Sandy Bell’s Bar
      a short walk with a long conclusion

      Norman MacCaig

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        The Snapped Thread

        Desire first, by a natural miracle
        United bodies, united hearts, blazed beauty;
        Transcended bodies, transcended hearts.

        Two souls, now unalterably one
        In whole love, everywhere and forever,
        Soar out of twilight, through upper air.
        Let fall their sensuous burden.

        Is it kind, though, is it honest, even
        To consort with none but spirits -
        Leaving true-wedded hearts like ours
        In enforced, night-long separation,
        Each to its random bodily inclination,
        The thread of miracle snapped?


        Robert Graves
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • Pabmusic
          Full Member
          • May 2011
          • 5537

          Heraclitus

          They told me, Heraclitus, they told me you were dead, 

          They brought me bitter news to hear and bitter tears to shed.

          I wept, as I remembered, how often you and I 

          Had tired the sun with talking and sent him down the sky.


          And now that thou art lying, my dear old Carian guest,

          A handful of grey ashes, long long ago at rest,

          Still are thy pleasant voices, thy nightingales, awake;

          For Death, he taketh all away, but them he cannot take.


          William Johnson Cory (1823-1892)

          A housemaster at Eton for a quarter of a century, he left suddenly under a cloud (an early Operation Yewtree, I suspect). This is, IMHO, a superb verse rendition of this epitaph from Callimachus of Alexandria (310?–240 BCE) for his friend, the poet Heraclitus (the comic poet, not the philosopher):
          Εἰπέ τις, Ἡράκλειτε, τεὸν μόρον ἐς δέ με δάκρυ

          ἤγαγεν ἐμνήσθην δ᾿ ὁσσάκις ἀμφότεροι
ἠέλιον
          λέσχῃ κατεδύσαμεν. ἀλλὰ σὺ μέν που,

          ξεῖν᾿ Ἁλικαρνησεῦ, τετράπαλαι σποδιή,
          
αἱ δὲ τεαὶ ζώουσιν ἀηδόνες, ᾗσιν ὁ πάντων

          ἁρπακτὴς Ἀίδης οὐκ ἐπὶ χεῖρα βαλεῖ.

          My Greek is truly bad, but a literal translation would be something like:
          Someone said you'd died, Heraclitus,
          and it made me cry when I remembered how often we talked till the sun set.
          And you, my friend from Halicarnassus, rest somewhere, long long ago turned to dust;
          but they, your nightingales, live on, on which Hades who grabs everything shall not lay his hand.

          There's a lovely, simple setting for choir by Stanford.

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            Other Rooms

            Afterwards, all he could remember clearly
            Was the sound that the rain made, splattering
            Against the paper wrappers of the flowers

            Someone had been arranging around her grave.
            He turned away from the window. When people
            Are always there one tends to forget them.

            And moved a cushion, but did not sit.
            To be gone, a person needs to have been,
            To be somebody something once happened to.

            He thought perhaps to make some tea. When
            There is not love enough to go around,
            It ought to be the dead who go without.

            Another room, another frontier. There would
            Be others: stairs and doors. He could
            Recall their bodies' fond acquaintanceship.

            These were her gloves. Something akin,
            He guessed, to immortality lay in his longing.
            Elsewhere would be her shoes, and other things.

            Neil Curry
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • ardcarp
              Late member
              • Nov 2010
              • 11102

              This was on Words and Music last night, wonderfully read:


              Lament

              When I was a windy boy and a bit
              And the black spit of the chapel fold,
              (Sighed the old ram rod, dying of women),
              I tiptoed shy in the gooseberry wood,
              The rude owl cried like a tell-tale tit,
              I skipped in a blush as the big girls rolled
              Nine-pin down on donkey's common,
              And on seesaw sunday nights I wooed
              Whoever I would with my wicked eyes,
              The whole of the moon I could love and leave
              All the green leaved little weddings' wives
              In the coal black bush and let them grieve.

              When I was a gusty man and a half
              And the black beast of the beetles' pews
              (Sighed the old ram rod, dying of bitches),
              Not a boy and a bit in the wick-
              Dipping moon and drunk as a new dropped calf,
              I whistled all night in the twisted flues,
              Midwives grew in the midnight ditches,
              And the sizzling sheets of the town cried, Quick!-
              Whenever I dove in a breast high shoal,
              Wherever I ramped in the clover quilts,
              Whatsoever I did in the coal-
              Black night, I left my quivering prints.

              When I was a man you could call a man
              And the black cross of the holy house,
              (Sighed the old ram rod, dying of welcome),
              Brandy and ripe in my bright, bass prime,
              No springtailed tom in the red hot town
              With every simmering woman his mouse
              But a hillocky bull in the swelter
              Of summer come in his great good time
              To the sultry, biding herds, I said,
              Oh, time enough when the blood runs cold,
              And I lie down but to sleep in bed,
              For my sulking, skulking, coal black soul!

              When I was half the man I was
              And serve me right as the preachers warn,
              (Sighed the old ram rod, dying of downfall),
              No flailing calf or cat in a flame
              Or hickory bull in milky grass
              But a black sheep with a crumpled horn,
              At last the soul from its foul mousehole
              Slunk pouting out when the limp time came;
              And I gave my soul a blind, slashed eye,
              Gristle and rind, and a roarers' life,
              And I shoved it into the coal black sky
              To find a woman's soul for a wife.

              Now I am a man no more no more
              And a black reward for a roaring life,
              (Sighed the old ram rod, dying of strangers),
              Tidy and cursed in my dove cooed room
              I lie down thin and hear the good bells jaw--
              For, oh, my soul found a sunday wife
              In the coal black sky and she bore angels!
              Harpies around me out of her womb!
              Chastity prays for me, piety sings,
              Innocence sweetens my last black breath,
              Modesty hides my thighs in her wings,
              And all the deadly virtues plague my death!

              Dylan Thomas

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                Meanwhile the mind, from pleasure less,
                Withdraws into its happiness;
                The mind, that ocean where each kind
                Does straight its own resemblance find,
                Yet it creates, transcending these,
                Far other worlds and other seas;
                Annihilating all that's made
                To a green thought in a green shade.

                How well the skillful gard'ner drew
                Of flowers and herbs this diall new,
                Where from above the milder sun
                Does through a fragrant zodiac run;
                And as it works, th'industrious bee
                Computes its time as well as we.
                How could such sweet and wholesome hours
                Be reckon'd but with herbs and flow'rs!



                from The Garden, Andrew MARVELL
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                • Barbirollians
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 11680

                  A lyric rather than a poem . Played at the funeral at the insistence of his wife for a friend who died much too young seven years ago now which is a shock

                  I can no longer see
                  Don't believe my eyes
                  any more
                  Can hardly believe
                  Feelings all turned around

                  I'm much too lazy
                  To give up
                  Besides it would be too soon
                  Because there's always a way

                  We were bound together
                  Would have died for
                  each other
                  Bent the rain into a bow1
                  Lent each other our trust

                  We tried to
                  Turn while
                  schussing
                  Nothing was too late
                  But much was too soon

                  We have shoved each other
                  Through all the tides
                  We got sidetracked together
                  Loved desperately

                  We denied the truth
                  The best we could
                  It was a piece
                  of heaven
                  That you exist

                  Every room you
                  Flooded with sun
                  Every frustration
                  You turned around

                  Nordic noble
                  Your gentle goodness
                  Your untamed pride
                  Life isn't fair

                  Danced the movie
                  In a silver room
                  From a golden balcony
                  We stood in awe of eternity

                  Helplessly sunken, drunken
                  And everything was allowed
                  Together in time-lapse
                  Midsummer-Night's Dream

                  Every room you
                  Flooded with sun
                  Every frustration
                  You turned around

                  Nordic noble
                  Your gentle goodness
                  Your untamed pride
                  Life isn't fair

                  Your confident stride
                  Your true poetry
                  Your serene dignity
                  Your unshakeable
                  grace

                  Your destiny
                  You defied
                  You never betrayed
                  Your plan for happiness
                  Your plan for happiness

                  I'm not leaving here
                  I've extended my stay
                  New time travel
                  Open world

                  I have you safe
                  Inside my soul
                  I'll carry you with me
                  Until the curtain falls

                  I'll carry you with me
                  Until the curtain falls

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                    We denied the truth
                    The best we could
                    It was a piece
                    of heaven
                    That you exist

                    Every room you
                    Flooded with sun
                    Every frustration
                    You turned around

                    Nordic noble
                    Your gentle goodness
                    Your untamed pride
                    Life isn't fair
                    Wir haben die Wahrheit
                    So gut es ging verlogen
                    Es war ein Stück
                    vom Himmel
                    Dass es dich gibt

                    Du hast jeden Raum
                    Mit Sonne geflutet
                    Hast jeden Verdruss
                    Ins Gegenteil verkehrt

                    Nordisch nobel
                    Deine sanftmütige Güte
                    Dein unbändiger Stolz
                    Das Leben ist nicht fair


                    Not a piece (or artist) whom I'd heard of before - youTube provides a link to the original:

                    Herbert Grönemeyer - Das offizielle Musikvideo zu Der Weg, aus dem Album Mensch.Die aktuelle Single Deine Hand: https://herbertgroenemeyer.lnk.to/DeineHand D...
                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • Tevot
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 1011

                      Lament III

                      Lay the cold boys in the earth

                      At Mons and Hartlepool:

                      Prove to anyone who doubts

                      That blood and iron rule.

                      Let the river thickly speak

                      In tongues of silt and lead.

                      Teach us our impediment:

                      We cannot face the dead.

                      Run the waters furnace-red,

                      Afire all night long.

                      If we're to live then we've to make

                      An elemental song:

                      The object of the exercise

                      Is furnishing the world

                      With battleships, and thunderbolts

                      The gods would once have hurled.

                      How shall we know ourselves except

                      As sparks on blood-red streams,

                      Where fire-tongued our utterance

                      Incinerates our dreams?

                      Lay the cold boys in the earth

                      At Loos and Stockton town.

                      Still the blazing river mouth

                      And shut the engines down.

                      Sean O'Brien

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                      • Barbirollians
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 11680

                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                        Wir haben die Wahrheit
                        So gut es ging verlogen
                        Es war ein Stück
                        vom Himmel
                        Dass es dich gibt

                        Du hast jeden Raum
                        Mit Sonne geflutet
                        Hast jeden Verdruss
                        Ins Gegenteil verkehrt

                        Nordisch nobel
                        Deine sanftmütige Güte
                        Dein unbändiger Stolz
                        Das Leben ist nicht fair


                        Not a piece (or artist) whom I'd heard of before - youTube provides a link to the original:

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC81i2M30Bc
                        Yes it was the writer's version in German that was played .

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          A Short Film

                          It was not meant to hurt.
                          It had been made for happy remembering
                          By people who were still too young
                          To have learned about memory.

                          Now it is a dangerous weapon, a time-bomb,
                          Which is a kind of body-bomb, long-term, too,
                          Only film, a few fragments of you skipping, a few seconds,
                          You aged about ten there, skipping and still skipping.

                          Not very clear grey, made out of mist and smudge,
                          This thing has a fine fuse, less a fuse
                          Than a wavelength attuned, an electronic detonator
                          To what lies in your grave inside us.

                          And how that explosion would hurt
                          Is not just an idea of horror but a flash of fine sweat
                          Over the skin-surface, a bracing of nerves
                          For something that has already happened.


                          from Birthday Letters by Ted HUGHES
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                            Gone fishin'
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 30163

                            Neil Curry (#110) has published six volumes of poetry (a seventh is about to appear) as well as studies of Christopher Smart, George Herbert and other poets. He was for many years Head of English at Cartmel Comprehensive. Alas, I never saw him teach, but I did have the luxury of attending the Shakespeare lectures given by Geoffrey Hill:


                            Love, oh my love, it will come
                            Sure enough. A storm
                            Broods over the dry earth all day.
                            At night the shutters throb in its downpour.

                            The metaphor holds; is a snug house.
                            You are outside, lost somewhere. I find myself
                            Devouring verses of stranger passion
                            And exile. The exact words

                            Are fed into my blank hunger for you.



                            ... the last of the five pieces that make up The Songbook of Sebastian Arrurruz, one of the cycles that together make up the collection King Log from 1968.
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                            • amateur51

                              Theophilos Palaiologos


                              This is the last year, this the last
                              of the Greek emperors. And, alas,
                              how sadly those around him talk.
                              Kyr Theophilos Palaiologos
                              in his grief, in his despair, says:
                              “I would rather die than live.”

                              Ah, Kyr Theophilos Palaiologos,
                              how much of the pathos, the yearning of our race,
                              how much weariness
                              (such exhaustion from injustice and persecution)
                              your six tragic words contained.




                              Translated by Edmund Keeley/Philip Sherrard

                              (C.P. Cavafy, Collected Poems. Translated by Edmund Keeley and Philip Sherrard. Edited by George Savidis. Revised Edition. Princeton University Press, 1992)

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                              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                                Gone fishin'
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 30163

                                I keep seeing the Cavafy Collected Poems in the Salts Gallery bookshop - one day!

                                A whole fortnight since the last posting! Tempus fugiting all over the place again - I've just posted this on the Maya Angelou RIP thread; more than a touch of the Nielsen fourths:

                                In addition to her well-known autobiographies, Maya Angelou has steadily written poetry over the years. In this video Professor Angelou recites her poem, "An...


                                ... phenomenal.
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