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  • LMcD
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    • Sep 2017
    • 8627

    Originally posted by smittims View Post
    '...say no more...'

    I wonder what Thomas Hardy would say about Nina Simone.
    I guess we shall have to remain In The Dark.

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    • cloughie
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      • Dec 2011
      • 22180

      Originally posted by LMcD View Post

      I guess we shall have to remain In The Dark.
      According to last night’s Springwatch Nightjars are not averse to cannibalism.

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      • Padraig
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        • Feb 2013
        • 4250

        Originally posted by Belgrove View Post
        Picked up a copy of Simon Armitage’s latest collection, Blossomise, after hearing him read an excerpt on the equinox. It celebrates the arrival of Spring blossom with poems that are instantly accessible, full of optimism, but tinged with wistfulness at the ephemerality of the blossom season and its passing. The longer poems are punctuated by haikus:

        Old Jaguar parked
        under apple blossom tree
        becomes snow leopard.

        The collection is illustrated with prints by Angela Harding. A delightful and charming volume.
        As I said, Belgrove, you persuaded me. I ordered it from my local bookseller, Little Acorns, and picked it up just yesterday. It's everything you described. Go raibh maith agat.

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        • LMcD
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          • Sep 2017
          • 8627

          Originally posted by cloughie View Post

          According to last night’s Springwatch Nightjars are not averse to cannibalism.
          Is that why there are so few of them?

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          • cloughie
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            • Dec 2011
            • 22180

            Originally posted by LMcD View Post

            Is that why there are so few of them?
            Certainly fewer fledglings!

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            • johncorrigan
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              • Nov 2010
              • 10407

              Like many programmes on BBC Radio 4, 'Poetry Please' appears to have found itself in a new slot in the schedules. I chanced on it on Tuesday afternoon while driving home. Roger McGough's guest this week was Frank Skinner and I thought he was very interesting indeed, offering insights into some familiar, and some unfamiliar poems.
              Roger McGough is joined by the writer and comedian Frank Skinner.

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              • vinteuil
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 12927

                Voltaire at Ferney

                Almost happy now, he looked at his estate.
                An exile making watches glanced up as he passed,
                And went on working; where a hospital was rising fast
                A joiner touched his cap; an agent came to tell
                Some of the trees he'd planted were progressing well.
                The white alps glittered. It was summer. He was very great.

                Far off in Paris, where his enemies
                Whispered that he was wicked, in an upright chair
                A blind old woman longed for death and letters. He would write
                "Nothing is better than life." But was it? Yes, the fight
                Against the false and the unfair
                Was always worth it. So was gardening. Civilise.

                Cajoling, scolding, screaming, cleverest of them all,
                He'd had the other children in a holy war
                Against the infamous grown-ups, and, like a child, been sly
                And humble, when there was occasion for
                The two-faced answer or the plain protective lie,
                But, patient like a peasant, waited for their fall.

                And never doubted, like D'Alembert, he would win:
                Only Pascal was a great enemy, the rest
                Were rats already poisoned; there was much, though, to be done,
                And only himself to count upon.
                Dear Diderot was dull but did his best;
                Rousseau, he'd always known, would blubber and give in.

                So, like a sentinel, he could not sleep. The night was full of wrong,
                Earthquakes and executions. Soon he would be dead,
                And still all over Europe stood the horrible nurses
                Itching to boil their children. Only his verses
                Perhaps could stop them: He must go on working: Overhead
                The uncomplaining stars composed their lucid song.

                WH Auden [1907-1973]

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                • Forget It (U2079353)
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 132

                  Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                  ... Only his verses
                  Perhaps could stop them: He must go on working:
                  ....
                  I 'll never believe that "poetry makes nothing happen".

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                  • Forget It (U2079353)
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 132

                    Starting this evening: Michael Longley's Life of Poetry - The Essay

                    Northern Ireland's most eminent contemporary poet, Michael Longley, talks to Olivia O'Leary about his life and reads some of his his poems.

                    Northern Ireland's most eminent contemporary poet, Michael Longley, talks about his life

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                    • johncorrigan
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 10407

                      Originally posted by Forget It (U2079353) View Post
                      Starting this evening: Michael Longley's Life of Poetry - The Essay

                      Northern Ireland's most eminent contemporary poet, Michael Longley, talks to Olivia O'Leary about his life and reads some of his his poems.

                      https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0020pnt
                      Thanks for the heads-up, F I.

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37812

                        I cannot help thinking just how pertinent to the Radio 3 of today and its once much-vaunted ethos are Shakespeare's words in The Merchant of Venice, as set by Vaughan Williams in his Serenade to Music:

                        I am never merry when I hear sweet music.
                        The reason is, your spirits are attentive.
                        The man that hath no music in himself,
                        Nor is moved with concord of sweet sounds,
                        Is fit for treasons, strategems and spoils;
                        The motions of his spirit are dull as night
                        And his affections dark as Erebus.
                        Let no such man be trusted.


                        The poet has already remarked:

                        But whilst this muddy vesture of decay
                        Doth grossly close it in, we cannot hear it.

                        Music! hark!
                        It is your music of the house.
                        Methinks it sounds much sweeter than by day.

                        Silence bestows the virtue on it.

                        (My emphases)

                        By "treasons, strategems and spoils" Shakespeare could well have had betrayals of so many of the principles that once governed both the thinking and priorities of those who once ran Radio 3; the "strategems" for upping listening figures; see in "spoils" the Raja figures, and add our constant unanswered plea for less announcer chit-chat adding to the general "muddy vesture of decay". "Your music of the house" can be taken as referring to Through the Night.

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                        • smittims
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                          • Aug 2022
                          • 4322

                          nicely put, I think.

                          'Will the world ever saner be
                          Than when he sent us here below
                          In our indifferent century?'

                          (Hardy).
                          Last edited by smittims; 04-09-24, 12:22.

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                          • LMcD
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                            • Sep 2017
                            • 8627

                            I'm currently rereading Brian Gardner's 'The Terrible Rain - The War Poets 1939-1945'. Names that one might not perhaps have expected to encounter in this anthology include John Arlott, Dirk van den Bogaerde (subsequently known as Dirk Bogarde). Jacob Bronowski and Enoch Powell.
                            Last edited by LMcD; 31-07-24, 11:16.

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                            • Padraig
                              Full Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 4250

                              This was a Poet -
                              It is That -
                              Distills amazing sense
                              From Ordinary Meanings -
                              And Attar so immense

                              From the familiar species
                              That perished by the Door -
                              We wonder it was not Ourselves
                              Arrested it - before -

                              Of Pictures, the Discloser -
                              The Poet - it is He -
                              Entitles us - by Contrast -
                              To ceaseless Poverty -

                              Of Portion - so unconscious -
                              The Robbing - could not harm -
                              Himself - to Him - a Fortune -
                              Exterior to Time.

                              Emily Dickinson 1862 Published 1929

                              The third quatrain is what prodded my memory, as I indicated in my Proms post. When we witness the performance of for example the Ax Trio in its excellence it only draws attention to the relative impoverishment of lesser mortals' attempts. 'Entitles' is a bit harsh, but realistic in my case.
                              Last edited by Padraig; 03-09-24, 15:15.

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                              • gradus
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 5622

                                Can anyone tell me the words (or where to find them) of the childrens poem that begins: 'My name is Mr Widgery I really don't know why, I'm just a nice old tortoise kind of diffident and shy ...
                                I had the words but now can't find them despite Googling.

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