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  • Padraig
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    • Feb 2013
    • 4237

    [QUOTE I would like to recommend a discovery - Julia Copus, an English poet. Any Ordinary Morning is taken from Girlhood, her fourth book.
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    As an addendum to the post, I was pleased to note that Julia Copus quoted from one of Emily Dickinson's poems as a prelude to the main item in her Girlhood. I was sorely tempted to post the whole poem, of which she quoted only the first stanza which begins :

    'One need not be a Chamber - to be Haunted'

    However, I suspected that I had already posted this poem (one does forget) so I used the search facility to check. I put in the whole first line and in the blink of an eye I found it - Poetry, 30-10-20, # 716. Just thought I would mention it.

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    • Forget It (U2079353)
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      • Nov 2010
      • 131

      Yes Padraig
      Julia Copus' Any Ordinary Morning
      is especially refined in its mid-line rhyme-sounds.

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      • Padraig
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        • Feb 2013
        • 4237

        Julia Copus' Any Ordinary Morning
        is especially refined in its mid-line rhyme-sounds.
        I'm not getting that particular feature🤔

        But she's got other spells. In her 'mirror poem' The Great Unburned, it starts:

        One by one we are gathering now, preparing to return
        to a land divided into good, clean souls and evil
        doubletalk, hexes, plump, beguiling apples.

        and ends:

        One by one we are gathering now, preparing to return.
        By the moon's white eye we'll take to the air, with our
        doubletalk, hexes, plump, beguiling apples,
        to a land divided into good, clean souls and evil.

        Read the whole poem for the full effect. The poem uses the slogan of the women who marched on Washington after Trump's presidential inauguration

        We're the witches you forgot to burn

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        • johncorrigan
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 10361

          I found myself very moved by Feargal Keane's opening piece on 'From Our Own Correspondent' on Radio 4 this past Saturday. Speaking from Jerusalem, Keane spoke of the language of hope among other things and talked of the conflict that he had been raised into in Northern Ireland, comparing notes with the present Gaza conflict.
          With peace a seemingly distant prospect, Fergal Keane reflects on the question of hope.


          During the piece he talked about buying a copy of Mahmoud Darwish's poetry and reading 'The Kindhearted Villagers' - I didn't know the poem so thought I would look it out.

          The Kindhearted Villagers


          I did not yet know my mother's way of life,
          nor her family's, when the ships came in from the sea.
          I knew the scent of tobacco in my grandfather's aha,
          and ever since I was born here, all at once, like a domestic animal,
          I knew the eternal smell of coffee.

          We, too, cry when we fall to the earth's rim.
          Yet we don't preserve our voices in old jars.
          We don't hang a mountain goat's horns on the wall,
          and we don't make of our dust a kingdom.
          Our dreams do not gaze upon other people's grapevines.
          They don't break the rule.

          My name had no feathers, so I couldn't fly beyond midday.
          April's warmth was like the balalaikas of our passing visitors.
          It caused us to fly like doves.
          My first fright: the charm of a girl who seduced me
          into smelling milk on her knees, but I fled that meal's sting!

          We, too, have our mystery when the sun falls from white poplars.
          We are overwhelmed by a desire to cry for one who has died for nothing,
          and by an eagerness to visit Babylon or a mosque in Damascus.
          In the eternal saga of pain, we are the teardrop in the dove's cooing.

          We are kindhearted villagers and we don't regret our words.
          Our names, like our days, are the same.
          Our names don't reveal us. We infiltrate the talk of our guests.
          We have things to tell the woman stranger
          about the land she embroiders on her scarf
          with the pinions of our returning sparrows!

          When the ships came in from the sea,
          this place was held together only by trees.
          We were feeding our cows in their enclosures
          and organizing our days in closets made by our own hands.
          We were coaxing the horse, and beckoning to the wandering star.

          We, too, boarded the ships, entertained by
          the radiance of the emerald in our olive at night,
          and by dogs barking at a fleeting moon above the church tower,
          yet we were unafraid.
          For our childhood had not boarded with us.
          We were satisfied with a song.
          Soon we'll go back to our house
          when the ships unload their excess cargo.
          Mahmoud Darwish

          ​

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          • Padraig
            Full Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 4237

            Colder here today. Do you remember when . . . .?

            The ice was like a bottle. We lined up
            Eager to re-enter the long slide
            We were bringing to perfection, time after time

            Running and readying and letting go
            Into a sheerness that was its own reward:
            A farewell to surefootedness, a pitch

            Beyond our usual hold upon ourselves.
            And what went on kept going, from grip to give.
            The narrow milky way in the black ice,

            The race up, the free passage and return -
            It followed on itself like a ring of light
            We knew we'd come through and kept sailing towards.

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            • Forget It (U2079353)
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 131

              Originally posted by Padraig View Post
              Colder here today. Do you remember when . . . .?
              1989.
              Whole poem here: https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v11/...aney/crossings

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              • Padraig
                Full Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 4237

                Originally posted by Forget It (U2079353) View Post
                That was the whole poem, Forget it. It was no xxviii of 48 12 line poems divided into 4 sets of 12. This poem was in the third set, Crossings.

                I should have accredited it in my earlier post as a poem by Seamus Heaney from Part 2 of Seeing Things, 1991.

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                • Forget It (U2079353)
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 131

                  Originally posted by Padraig View Post

                  That was the whole poem, Forget it. It was no xxviii of 48 12 line poems divided into 4 sets of 12. This poem was in the third set, Crossings.

                  I should have accredited it in my earlier post as a poem by Seamus Heaney from Part 2 of Seeing Things, 1991.
                  I bow to you ...
                  I've only come to properly appreciate Heaney fairly recently and this forum thread greatly helps

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                  • Padraig
                    Full Member
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 4237

                    Originally posted by Forget It (U2079353) View Post

                    I bow to you ...
                    I've only come to properly appreciate Heaney fairly recently and this forum thread greatly helps
                    Thank you, Forget it, for the acknowledgement.

                    I can tell you that I am also hoping to appreciate Heaney better now that I have embarked on a second go-around of his works. I'm seeing things that I missed previously in depths suspected, but now gradually threatening my understanding.

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                    • johncorrigan
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 10361

                      Originally posted by Forget It (U2079353) View Post

                      I bow to you ...
                      I've only come to properly appreciate Heaney fairly recently and this forum thread greatly helps
                      Poetry Extra on BBC Radio 4 Extra this coming Sunday is 'Seamus Heaney - Out of the Marvellous', F I.

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                      • Forget It (U2079353)
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 131

                        With the sad news https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67646607

                        it's worth noting that Benjamin Zephaniah quite recently shared a selection of favourite poems from listener requests
                        Roger McGough is joined by Benjamin Zephaniah, who shares poems from listener requests.

                        which is still available as audio

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                        • johncorrigan
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 10361

                          Originally posted by Forget It (U2079353) View Post
                          With the sad news https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67646607

                          it's worth noting that Benjamin Zephaniah quite recently shared a selection of favourite poems from listener requests
                          Roger McGough is joined by Benjamin Zephaniah, who shares poems from listener requests.

                          which is still available as audio
                          That is such bad news, F I. I listened to that show a couple of days ago and loved it. He was such a warm, talented and brave human being. So sad!

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                          • Serial_Apologist
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 37684

                            R.I.P.

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                            • Ian Thumwood
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                              • Dec 2010
                              • 4180

                              I was saddened to hear of the passing of Benjamin Zephaniah. When my nephew was small I bought him a book of BZ's children's poems as I knew my sister would not approve.

                              There are two poems by Zepahaniah which always made me laugh. One was about Aston Villa ( usually comical enough without the need of a amusing poem written about them) and another was called "I read it in The Sun" which is probably the funniest poem I have ever heard. I have never been able to find this on line and the tone of the poem was comic genius.

                              Basically, he wrote poetry to make you smile and think at the same time.

                              RIP

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                              • Serial_Apologist
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 37684

                                Where have all the low-paid gone

                                Long time passing?

                                Where have all the carers gone

                                Not long ago?

                                Where's them sweet black brown folks gone?

                                To Rwanda, every one!

                                When will some ever learn?


                                When

                                will

                                some

                                e......

                                ver...........

                                learn?

                                (All suggested improvements welcomed)

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