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  • Padraig
    Full Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 4237

    I appreciate your interest and comments, Global and silvestrione.
    I would like to have included the Irish version of Frost, but while I struggle to pronounce the words I fear that it would be even worse for you(se). Irish has 'sibh' for 'you', plural.
    The poem Reo has beautiful sounds, lots of rhyme, end and internal, and I feel that you have spotted these elements in the English Frost, silvestrione. I imagine that the original gains greatly from its own language and that one day I'll be able to read it aloud as it should sound - delicately haunted.

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    • Padraig
      Full Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 4237

      having problems posting. That's life.

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      • johncorrigan
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 10363

        I posted about the song 'Norlan' Wind' elsewhere which set Angus poet, Violet Jacobs' poem 'The Wild Geese' to the tune of 'Magheracloone'. Thought I'd post the original, a sad poem of longing for home.
        The Wild Geese


        Oh tell me what was on your road, ye roarin’ norlan’ Wind,

        As ye cam’ blawin’ frae the land that’s niver frae my mind?

        My feet they traivel England, but I’m deein’ for the north.

        My man, I heard the siller tides rin up the Firth o Forth”



        Aye, Wind, I ken them weel eneuch, and fine they fa’ and rise,

        And fain I’d feel the creepin’ mist on yonder shore that lies,

        But tell me, ere ye passed them by, what saw ye on the way?

        My man, I rocked the rovin’ gulls that sail abune the Tay.



        But saw ye naething, leein’ Wind, afore ye cam’ to Fife?

        There’s muckle lyin’ ‘yont the Tay that’s mair to me nor life.

        My man, I swept the Angus braes ye ha’ena trod for years.

        O Wind, forgi’e a hameless loon that canna see for tears!



        And far abune the Angus straths I saw the wild geese flee,

        A lang, lang skein o’ beatin’ wings wi’ their heids towards the sea,

        And aye their cryin’ voices trailed ahint them on the air –

        O Wind, hae maircy, haud yer whisht, for I daurna listen mair!

        Violet Jacobs

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        • Padraig
          Full Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 4237

          A poem for reciting, John, or singing. Sounds familiar to my ear - it must be the Irish in those words.

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          Portrait of a Woman from the Fayum

          The painter of mummy portraits came today
          And spoke to father about my symptoms.
          Overhearing words like 'mortal illness',
          I was not surprised, given how I feel.
          A girl, they call me, but I look years older,
          My skin the colour of papyrus, brown eyes
          Facing other eyes with open-ended questions
          And a mind that gloats over the present,
          Having no wish to be other-worldly.

          When he comes to make a sketch from the life,
          With his paints, brushes, charcoal stove and wax,
          I shall put on my emeralds and garnets,
          Small though they are, as well as my gold ball earrings,
          With an understated Roman-style fringe
          Above my forehead and enquiring eyebrows.
          And I shall ask my mother to dress my body
          In that fine peplum (with the purple border),
          When the real me has embarked for the underworld.

          I've not been specially good, but I've tried
          Not to scandalize the impartial gods.
          Forgive me, self-pity is wrong, I know,
          But tears seem to have a will of their own.
          Through the doorway I can see the bulrushes
          Swaying in the wind off the Libyan desert
          And hear the teal burbling on Lake Moeris,
          While down the road the light-hearted village women
          Ululate at somone else's wedding feast.

          Fergus Allen.

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          • Padraig
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            • Feb 2013
            • 4237

            Originally posted by Padraig View Post

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            Portrait of a Woman from the Fayum

            Fergus Allen.
            A poem written by a man concerning a woman, and death; followed by a poem written by a woman concerning a woman, and death.

            Ship of Death
            (for my mother)

            Watching you, for the first time,
            turn to prepare your boat, my mother;
            making it clear you have other business now -
            the business of your future -
            I was washed-through with anger.

            It was a first survey,
            an eye thrown
            over sails, oars, timbers,
            as many a time I'd seen that practised eye
            scan a laden table.

            How can you plan going off like this
            when we stand at last, close enough, if the wind is right,
            to hear what the other is saying?
            I never thought you'd do this, turning away,
            mid-sentence, your hand testing a rope,

            your ear tuned
            to the small thunder of the curling wave
            on the edge of the great-night sea,
            neither regretful nor afraid -
            anxious only for the tide.

            Kerry Hardie

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            • Tevot
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 1011

              All My Pretty Ones

              By Anne Sexton (1928-1974)


              Father, this year’s jinx rides us apart

              where you followed our mother to her cold slumber;

              a second shock boiling its stone to your heart,

              leaving me here to shuffle and disencumber

              you from the residence you could not afford:

              a gold key, your half of a woolen mill,

              twenty suits from Dunne’s, an English Ford,

              the love and legal verbiage of another will,

              boxes of pictures of people I do not know.

              I touch their cardboard faces. They must go.


              But the eyes, as thick as wood in this album,

              hold me. I stop here, where a small boy

              waits in a ruffled dress for someone to come ...

              for this soldier who holds his bugle like a toy

              or for this velvet lady who cannot smile.

              Is this your father’s father, this commodore

              in a mailman suit? My father, time meanwhile

              has made it unimportant who you are looking for.

              I’ll never know what these faces are all about.

              I lock them into their book and throw them out.


              This is the yellow scrapbook that you began

              the year I was born; as crackling now and wrinkly

              as tobacco leaves: clippings where Hoover outran

              the Democrats, wiggling his dry finger at me

              and Prohibition; news where the Hindenburg went

              down and recent years where you went flush

              on war. This year, solvent but sick, you meant

              to marry that pretty widow in a one-month rush.

              But before you had that second chance, I cried

              on your fat shoulder. Three days later you died.


              These are the snapshots of marriage, stopped in places.

              Side by side at the rail toward Nassau now;

              here, with the winner’s cup at the speedboat races,

              here, in tails at the Cotillion, you take a bow,

              here, by our kennel of dogs with their pink eyes,

              running like show-bred pigs in their chain-link pen;

              here, at the horseshow where my sister wins a prize;

              and here, standing like a duke among groups of men.

              Now I fold you down, my drunkard, my navigator,

              my first lost keeper, to love or look at later.


              I hold a five-year diary that my mother kept

              for three years, telling all she does not say

              of your alcoholic tendency. You overslept,

              she writes. My God, father, each Christmas Day

              with your blood, will I drink down your glass

              of wine? The diary of your hurly-burly years

              goes to my shelf to wait for my age to pass.

              Only in this hoarded span will love persevere.

              Whether you are pretty or not, I outlive you,

              bend down my strange face to yours and forgive you.

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              • usher

                This is a splendid thread. Much is familiar but so much more here that is new and delightful. Thank you. This seems apt to a musical board:

                GRATIANA DAUNCING AND SINGING

                See! with what constant Motion
                Even, and glorious, as the Sunne,
                Gratiana steeres that Noble Frame,
                Soft as her breast, sweet as her voyce
                That gave each winding Law and poyze,
                And swifter then the wings of Fame.

                She beat the happy Pavement
                By such a Starre made Firmament,
                Which now no more the Roofe envies;
                But swells up high with Atlas ev'n
                Bearing the brighter, nobler Heav'n,
                And in her, all the Deities.

                Each step trod out a Lovers thought
                And the Ambitious hopes he brought,
                Chain'd to her brave feet with such arts;
                Such sweet command, and gentle awe,
                As when she ceas'd, we sighing saw
                The floore lay pav'd with broken hearts.

                So did she move; so did she sing
                Like the Harmonious spheres that bring
                Unto their Rounds their musick's ayd;
                Which she performed such a way,
                As all th' inamour'd world will say
                The Graces daunced, and Apollo play'd.

                Richard Lovelace.

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                • Padraig
                  Full Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 4237

                  What a delightful poem, usher, and a timely reminder of the glories of other years. May I join in the welcome I see you have already received.

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                  • usher

                    Originally posted by Padraig View Post
                    What a delightful poem, usher, and a timely reminder of the glories of other years. May I join in the welcome I see you have already received.
                    Thank you!

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                    • Lat-Literal
                      Guest
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 6983

                      Originally posted by usher View Post
                      This is a splendid thread. Much is familiar but so much more here that is new and delightful. Thank you. This seems apt to a musical board:

                      GRATIANA DAUNCING AND SINGING

                      See! with what constant Motion
                      Even, and glorious, as the Sunne,
                      Gratiana steeres that Noble Frame,
                      Soft as her breast, sweet as her voyce
                      That gave each winding Law and poyze,
                      And swifter then the wings of Fame.

                      She beat the happy Pavement
                      By such a Starre made Firmament,
                      Which now no more the Roofe envies;
                      But swells up high with Atlas ev'n
                      Bearing the brighter, nobler Heav'n,
                      And in her, all the Deities.

                      Each step trod out a Lovers thought
                      And the Ambitious hopes he brought,
                      Chain'd to her brave feet with such arts;
                      Such sweet command, and gentle awe,
                      As when she ceas'd, we sighing saw
                      The floore lay pav'd with broken hearts.

                      So did she move; so did she sing
                      Like the Harmonious spheres that bring
                      Unto their Rounds their musick's ayd;
                      Which she performed such a way,
                      As all th' inamour'd world will say
                      The Graces daunced, and Apollo play'd.

                      Richard Lovelace.
                      Which brings to mind W D Browne.

                      I am happy to accept Hyperion's conclusion that it is "one of the most beautiful creations in the entire repertoire of twentieth-century English song."

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                      • usher

                        Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
                        Which brings to mind W D Browne.

                        I am happy to accept Hyperion's conclusion that it is "one of the most beautiful creations in the entire repertoire of twentieth-century English song."
                        It is lovely. I have the Bostridge/Drake recording.

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                        • Lat-Literal
                          Guest
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 6983

                          Originally posted by usher View Post
                          It is lovely. I have the Bostridge/Drake recording.


                          It is the Ian Bostridge recording I know.

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                          • Pabmusic
                            Full Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 5537

                            "Truth," said a traveller,
                            "Is a rock, a mighty fortress;
                            Often have I been to it,
                            Even to its highest tower,
                            From whence the world looks black."

                            "Truth," said a traveller,
                            "Is a breath, a wind,
                            A shadow, a phantom;
                            Long have I pursued it,
                            But never have I touched
                            The hem of its garment."

                            And I believed the second traveller;
                            For truth was to me
                            A breath, a wind,
                            A shadow, a phantom,
                            And never had I touched
                            The hem of its garment.

                            Stephen Crane (1871-1900)

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                            • Padraig
                              Full Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 4237

                              It's an attractive poem, Pabmusic, but isn't there a catch?

                              Here's another with a sting in the tail:

                              Young and Old

                              When all the world is young, lad,
                              And all the trees are green;
                              And every goose a swan, lad,
                              And every lass a queen;
                              Then hey for boot and horse, lad,
                              And round the world away;
                              Young blood must have its course, lad,
                              And every dog his day.

                              When all the wotld is old, lad.
                              And all the trees are brown;
                              And all the sport is stale, lad,
                              And all the wheels run down;
                              Creep home and take your place there,
                              The spent and maimed among;
                              God grant you find one face there,
                              You loved when all was young.

                              Charles Kingsley (1819 - 1875)

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                              • Pabmusic
                                Full Member
                                • May 2011
                                • 5537

                                Originally posted by Padraig View Post
                                It's an attractive poem, Pabmusic, but isn't there a catch?...
                                Yes indeed. It's very Wildean - and of the same era. (Also Hardy and Housman, come to think of it)

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