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  • Thropplenoggin
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    • Mar 2013
    • 1587

    More Meades

    Such an intelligent critic and television programme maker and presenter:

    Jonathan Meades has three books and a new TV series in the offing, yet he is beset by worries that his style of film-making is being marginalised. By Rachel Cooke


    Choice quote:

    'Does the BBC treasure him? Does it understand the talent it has in its possession? "I don't really think so, no. They don't always say yes. If I say I want to do four hours about brutalism, they'll give me two. The last film we had to do in just 19 days. You can't do any fancy set-ups: no cranes, no dollies. It's not slavery, obviously, but it's much more difficult than it used to be. My subjects are regarded as minoritarian and that's a self-fulfilling prophecy. On BBC2, I used to get 2.5 million to 3 million viewers; now I get a tenth of that on BBC4."'
    Last edited by Thropplenoggin; 10-11-13, 08:48.
    It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius
  • MrGongGong
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 18357

    #2
    Thanks for this

    I rarely watch TV these days so good to get a 'steer'

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    • Thropplenoggin
      Full Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 1587

      #3
      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
      Thanks for this
      Unfortunately, the interviewer is predictably banal. Meades is 'impossibly erudite'. No, he's simply well-educated and well-read. Then she insists on inserting herself into the article: on being presented with an exotic local delicacy, caillettes: 'Is this a test? If so, I'm going to pass it with flying colours. We eat them with rocket, and as we do, we talk...'

      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
      I rarely watch TV these days so good to get a 'steer'
      Me neither. I'm down to Whatever Happened To The Likely Lads? on Monday evenings and, er, that's it.
      It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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      • muzzer
        Full Member
        • Nov 2013
        • 1193

        #4
        Overall she seemed rather in awe of him wouldn't you say?

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        • Thropplenoggin
          Full Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 1587

          #5
          Originally posted by muzzer View Post
          Overall she seemed rather in awe of him wouldn't you say?
          Quite. A total waste. I'm surprised Meades didn't eat her for breakfast and spit out the gristle, what with his Huge Man Brain and everything.
          It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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          • teamsaint
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 25210

            #6
            thanks @Noggo.
            I'm also a very occasional telly watcher these days (music and football and there isn't much of either on terrestrial), but Meades is always worth a looking out for.

            The cult of "ME" is thriving then.....
            I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

            I am not a number, I am a free man.

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            • teamsaint
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 25210

              #7
              Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
              Quite. A total waste. I'm surprised Meades didn't eat her for breakfast and spit out the gristle, what with his Huge Man Brain and everything.
              are you sure that this is a thing? I'm sure I read otherwise on this board..........
              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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              • Wallace

                #8
                Thanks for linking to this Thropplenoggin. Like others I hardly watch TV because almost everything is devoid of thoughtful content and is presented in a way which is an insult to the viewer's intelligence. Meades is different. He acknowledges the problem in a quote from the article:
                "Well, anecdotal evidence suggests that those people who do watch truly revere him. "I'm aware of that and I'm grateful people like the films so much. But, it's force majeure: there is nothing else on. Twenty years ago, there was lots of stuff that was individualistic and entertaining. But not now. The people they get to front these documentaries can't write! They're cobbled together by a producer and a researcher and the "expert" reads the lines, which have often been plagiarised." "

                "I'm surprised Meades didn't eat her for breakfast and spit out the gristle, what with his Huge Man Brain and everything. "
                He is, I sense, a gentleman, and a gentleman wouldn't do such a thing - that is if gentlemen still exist - or did most of them disappear at the same time as most TV stopped being watchable?

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                • kernelbogey
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 5752

                  #9
                  Such an intelligent critic and television programme maker and presenter:

                  Jonathan Meades has three books and a new TV series in the offing, yet he is beset by worries that his style of film-making is being marginalised. By Rachel Cooke


                  [...]
                  The article contains a link to the YouTube of Meades's recently aired film about Essex, and the contributions to the county by philanthropists. Worth watching.

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30323

                    #10
                    That quote comes very à propos

                    "My subjects are regarded as minoritarian and that's a self-fulfilling prophecy. On BBC2, I used to get 2.5 million to 3 million viewers; now I get a tenth of that on BBC4."

                    The BBC's failure to cover the arts in a nushell.

                    Beneficent.
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • kernelbogey
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 5752

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                      Unfortunately, the interviewer is predictably banal. Meades is 'impossibly erudite'. No, he's simply well-educated and well-read. Then she insists on inserting herself into the article[...]
                      There is no reason why the interviewer should not 'insert' herself into the article. She is writing about a dialogue she had. I found it a rather charming account: the antithesis of banal.

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                      • amateur51

                        #12
                        Originally posted by french frank View Post
                        That quote comes very à propos

                        "My subjects are regarded as minoritarian and that's a self-fulfilling prophecy. On BBC2, I used to get 2.5 million to 3 million viewers; now I get a tenth of that on BBC4."

                        The BBC's failure to cover the arts in a nushell.

                        Beneficent.
                        A fine quotation, worth keeping dry for inclusion in FoR3's submission to Tony Hall's consultation, I reckon.

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                        • Stephen Whitaker

                          #13
                          Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                          There is no reason why the interviewer should not 'insert' herself into the article. She is writing about a dialogue she had. I found it a rather charming account: the antithesis of banal.
                          I quite agree, her work is in the tradition of literary interviewers like George Plimpton. Not only that she has just produced a well reviewed book

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30323

                            #14
                            I would agree that it's a style of journalism (not uncommon) aimed at being interesting in itself. But I find it a bit self indulgent and irritating. The rationale for writing in that way is that I am almost certainly in a minority.
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • mercia
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 8920

                              #15
                              so the 3 million people who managed to find BBC2 with their remote controls cannot also find BBC4 - extraordinary

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