"The Young Montalbano" MUCH better than the older one.....

[Lento]

Much as I love Skandi crime dramas, it's always great to see the return of Montalbano (young or otherwise) as a kind of detox.

[eighthobstruction]

Much as I love Skandi crime dramas, it's always great to see the return of Montalbano (young or otherwise) as a kind of detox.

[johncorrigan]

Much darker episode this weekend...much less levity but most enjoyable.

[jean]

Well this last one was quite ridiculous. Why do we have to have all this sex?

[Anna]

Well this last one was quite ridiculous. Why do we have to have all this sex?

Agreed but I was really pleased that his conscience triumphed over his lust! There's only 2 episodes left in this series, are we to have Old Montalbano back or a new Scandiwegian drama, does anyone know? And, talking of mysteries, have been glued to and gripped by Shetland but where is the next episode in the schedules, certainly not next Friday, just says 'coming soon'

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

All what sex??? A few furtive snogs - and hardly any clothing hurt in the making of this programme! AND to show that (unlike his older self) young Salvo resisted what was offered and returned to Livia before any significant carnal encounter with the Bank Manageress.

Anna - I think it said at the end of the last episode of Shetland that the next would be in a fortnight. (Some grown men getting paid to run around chasing balls next Friday.)

[Nick Armstrong]

Why do we have to have all this sex?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

There's only 2 episodes left in this series, are we to have Old Montalbano back or a new Scandiwegian drama, does anyone know?

There's one of BBC's perpetual trailers which hint at forthcoming dramas - included is Y Gwyll (or Hinterland as it's given to us saesnigs) - so we MIGHT be getting the second series that's just been shown on BBCWales.

And, talking of mysteries, have been glued to and gripped by Shetland

- I also liked the bit where Totally Inappropriate Man asks Tosh on a date ("A cup of coffee and a digestive biscuit")

[jean]

All what sex??? A few furtive snogs...

Luxuriant and long-drawn-out, if you ask me. It's quite the wrong genre for that sort of thing. I felt quite embarrassed at having persuaded OH to watch it with me. She was scathing.

...AND to show that (unlike his older self) young Salvo resisted what was offered...

But the older Montalbano was almost prudish until very late in the series, when his relationship with Livia was pertty shaky anyway.

.... but I was really pleased that his conscience triumphed over his lust!

I haven't seen the previous two episodes yet, so I don't know what happened between him and Livia - but he seemed to think it was over (though obviously it can't be, because she's got to be there for his older self).

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Luxuriant and long-drawn-out, if you ask me.

But still not "all the sex" you suggested we were having (if you see what I mean) -

It's quite the wrong genre for that sort of thing. I felt quite embarrassed at having persuaded OH to watch it with me. She was scathing.

Well, if you ask me, if this genre is going to show regular images of blood-spattered corpses, then it's fitting that these should be balanced with more positive scenes. (I've always preferred sex to violence.)

But the older Montalbano was almost prudish until very late in the series, when his relationship with Livia was pertty shaky anyway.

You're absolutley right, of course - it was only in the final series that we started getting regular (ie EVERY episode) a new relationship - usually with a woman looking twenty years his junior who was also often a suspect in the case he was investigating. But - if there is grounds for objecting to last night's (less-than-three minutes in total) snogging, then there is surely greater grounds for objecting to the amount of nudity in that last series? And, if this can be justified on the grounds that "his relationship with Livia was pretty shaky anyway", then so can last night's episode's non-sex scenes, when he believed his relationship with her was at an end?

(His relationship with Livia was at its rockiest in Series Two of Bald Montalbano - where she was reduced to an occasional nagging phone conversation.)

[Nick Armstrong]

last night's (less-than-three minutes in total) snogging,

[jean]

Well, if you ask me, if this genre is going to show regular images of blood-spattered corpses, then it's fitting that these should be balanced with more positive scenes. (I've always preferred sex to violence.)

Then perhaps you are just watching the wrong genre?

...it was only in the final series that we started getting regular (ie EVERY episode) a new relationship - usually with a woman looking twenty years his junior who was also often a suspect in the case he was investigating...

Who would then conveniently die so that he could move on to the next one without any bad conscience.

Mimi's extreme priapism is suggested without any sex scenes at all, even in the later series, when he's married and therefore it's all rather more serious.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Then perhaps you are just watching the wrong genre?

Right back atcha, jean.

Who would then conveniently die so that he could move on to the next one without any bad conscience.

Mimi's extreme priapism is suggested without any sex scenes at all, even in the later series, when he's married and therefore it's all rather more serious.

Yes - but the series isn't called Augello: we're not shown Mimi eating either, nor his relationship with his father, nor his being woken by Caterella, nor how he exercises ...

And are Montalbano's gastronomic enthusiasms also an essential part of the genre? Is it more off-putting to watch him eating than kissing?

[Anna]

. And are Montalbano's gastronomic enthusiasms also an essential part of the genre? Is it more off-putting to watch him eating than kissing?

And that's a huge disappointment - not having watched Old Montalbano - I was told that the series featured a lot of beautiful food, I've seen no evidence of this, just short scenes of olive or salami eating, no lingering shots of the gastro-porn I was promised!!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

And that's a huge disappointment - not having watched Old Montalbano - I was told that the series featured a lot of beautiful food, I've seen no evidence of this, just short scenes of olive or salami eating, no lingering shots of the gastro-porn I was promised!!

- wonderful seafood dishes in Bald Montalbano (and, IIRC, the first series of Young); and pasta and deserts cooked for him by Adelina (?his housekeeper) ...

jean's absolutely correct - get rid of all this unnecessary rumpy-pumpy and bring back the cooking!