"The Young Montalbano" MUCH better than the older one.....

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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    #16
    Originally posted by jean View Post
    Did no-one else like the music of the older Montalbano series?
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • amateur51

      #17
      Originally posted by slarty View Post
      Well Cali, the older Livia on the main series has a claim to fame other than just being an actress, she is Karl Böhm's granddaughter, and daughter of Karl-Heinz Böhm of "Peeping Tom" fame. as for the language, well it is quite earthy, the translations are sometimes quite liberal with their meanings, but if some of the phrases were literally translated there would no doubt be lots of complaints.
      there are certain words that the Italians just don' t say, although they are part of the language, that one hears in English all the time EG "basta*#d is Never said, they use the Word "cornuto" which although is pretty rustic Language, means cuckold with a ripe preceding adjective, and the normal word heard these days describing excrement is never really heard spoken by Italians or Sicilians. Stronzo is also very rustical ,meaning "Richardhead", and the word for Fu** that is used regularly is phonetically heard as minkia. I won't spell it correctly.
      None of these words would normally be heard in mixed company amongst normally educated people.
      as for the two Montalbanos - the elder is revered in Italy and became so popular that RAI tv moved it from the second to the first channel around 2005. Zingaretti, like John Thaw, kept saying enough, and they have filled the void with the YM.
      I saw all six last Christmas when they were first released, and they get better and better. A second series is going into production soon.
      A new series of the older Montalbano is ready for transmission. BBC4 will be showing them(4) this winter.
      I am not getting into the debate of which is better. I like them both very much.
      Thanks for this slarty - most educational

      I enjoy Camilleri's novels too

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      • Resurrection Man

        #18
        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
        .....

        But I've been enjoying the 'Young Morse'-style prequel far more - "The Young Montalbano" now 2 episodes in to a 6 episode run on BBC4 in the 9pm Saturday slot http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03b8pz3
        .....

        In particular, I fantasise (as we are meant to) about having access to a house like the one Montalbano has managed to move into, with two balconies actually over the beach... (the actual location for the beach house being a little seaside town called Punta Secca - see the second photo down on this page:

        http://www.travelsignposts.com/Italy...tor-montalbano )

        ....
        C'mon, Cali, 'fess up. You only watch it because of the delightful younger Livia

        I know I do

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        • johncorrigan
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 10348

          #19
          Sad to see the finish of this rather excellent and most amusing series...but old Montalbano's back next week.

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          • Nick Armstrong
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 26523

            #20
            Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
            Sad to see the finish of this rather excellent and most amusing series...but old Montalbano's back next week.
            Agreed Enjoyed the last one last night, very much.
            "...the isle is full of noises,
            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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            • slarty

              #21
              A new series of the Young Montalbano is also being made at the moment, for release next year

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              • johncorrigan
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 10348

                #22
                Originally posted by slarty View Post
                A new series of the Young Montalbano is also being made at the moment, for release next year
                Good news in our house, slarty!

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                • Nick Armstrong
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26523

                  #23
                  Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
                  Good news in our house, slarty!
                  There's bunting out at Castello Calibano too
                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26523

                    #24
                    Some chat from the lead actor, clips and links here:

                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • johncorrigan
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 10348

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                      Some chat from the lead actor, clips and links here:

                      http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tv/posts/...-the-detective
                      ...and a nice flick of Livia too, Cal.

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30248

                        #26
                        I know nothing except that friend suggested we might go to a film being shown by her Italian teacher (with food). It was called Mio Fratello è Figlio Unico and when the lights went up everyone was smiling broadly and saying Montalbano, Montalbano ... Sì, sì, Montalbano ... I remembered seeing Caliban's thread title so guessed he was in a Scandinavian thriller
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • Ariosto

                          #27
                          I'm catching up on an old thread.

                          I loved the old Montelbano and thought the new Montelbano was pretty good too.

                          I love the food, the time taken for each shot (no fast cutting much here), the acting (and who is the computer expert!) - and the filmic style. The music too is great and obviously played by a local band, with great character and a certain rustic roughness. Fantastic, and in real life orchestras do play out of tune a bit, but more importantly the characterisation of the themes and the real gusto that comes out of their playing is great. Not at all like the over-sanitised orchestras we hear so often.

                          It also reminds me that drama and comedy, and life, can be portrayed on screen with sincerity, and we have lost sight of really good TV programmes, certainly in the UK and America.

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                          • slarty

                            #28
                            The second series has recently been shown on Italian TV, the six episodes can even be found on YouTube, BUT there are no subtitles. We will have to wait for the BBC to show them.
                            As for the senior Montalbano two new episodes were filmed here in Punta Secca last April and will be finished in Rome at Cinecitta. Also they have signed contracts for a further 5 years (2 episodes a year).

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                            • DracoM
                              Host
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 12960

                              #29
                              And, for me, both versions are equally unwatchable. Have tried promise,........

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                              • jean
                                Late member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 7100

                                #30
                                I wonder what will happen when the two time-periods collide; it can't be long now.

                                Having now watched more of the youncger one than I had when this thread began, I think the 'earlier' characters are even more stereotypical. But I enjoy both. I pretend I'm practising my Italian.

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