'David Starkey's Music and Monarchy'

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  • doversoul1
    Ex Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 7132

    #61
    I was slightly annoyed by the way in which David Starkey interrupted the contributors several times as if to make sure that the programme would go as it had been planned. However, this is a minor complaint. I think a programme like this definitely encourages those who are vaguely interested in early music but have little knowledge to go and seek out more information and recordings. I would most certainly have done, and will still do.

    A trivial point: what is the correct or accepted pronunciation of Purcell? DS sounded as if he was saying P’cell.

    Handel next week. I wonder who the subject of the last programme will be. JC Bach? (that will be the day )

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    • doversoul1
      Ex Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 7132

      #62
      I was slightly annoyed by the way in which David Starkey interrupted the contributors several times as if to make sure that the programme would go as it had been planned. However, this is a minor complaint. I think a programme like this definitely encourages those who are vaguely interested in early music but have little knowledge to go and seek out more information and recordings. I would most certainly have done, and will still do.

      A trivial point: what is the correct or accepted pronunciation of Purcell? DS sounded as if he was saying P’cell.

      Handel next week. I wonder who the subject of the last programme will be. JC Bach? (that will be the day )

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      • jean
        Late member
        • Nov 2010
        • 7100

        #63
        Originally posted by doversoul View Post
        A trivial point: what is the correct or accepted pronunciation of Purcell? DS sounded as if he was saying P’cell.
        These days he's usually indistinguishable from the washing powder.

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        • jean
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 7100

          #64
          Originally posted by doversoul View Post
          A trivial point: what is the correct or accepted pronunciation of Purcell? DS sounded as if he was saying P’cell.
          These days he's usually indistinguishable from the washing powder.

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          • doversoul1
            Ex Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 7132

            #65
            I’ve just caught up with the third programme. Very interesting musical ‘context’ of Handel.

            Thank you, jean (re: the washing powder...)

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            • doversoul1
              Ex Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 7132

              #66
              I’ve just caught up with the third programme. Very interesting musical ‘context’ of Handel.

              Thank you, jean (re: the washing powder...)

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              • KipperKid

                #67
                Originally posted by jean View Post
                These days he's usually indistinguishable from the washing powder.
                I have always pronounced him as per the washing powder, but the last few times I've heard it pronounced on the radio, it's been P'cell.

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                • KipperKid

                  #68
                  Originally posted by jean View Post
                  These days he's usually indistinguishable from the washing powder.
                  I have always pronounced him as per the washing powder, but the last few times I've heard it pronounced on the radio, it's been P'cell.

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                  • Mary Chambers
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1963

                    #69
                    He used the pronunciation of Purcell that was current in my childhood, with the stress on the last syllable. At some point in my life it changed, to that washing powder pronunciation mentioned by Jean. Perhaps no-one really knows how Purcell pronounced it.

                    EDIT I've just found this couplet from Dryden:

                    Now live secure and linger all your days,
                    The Gods are please'd alone with Purcell's lays.

                    Gerard Manley Hopkins rhymed Purcell and reversal. Flanders and Swann rhymed Purcell and rehearsal. All of these point to the washing powder version!
                    Last edited by Mary Chambers; 06-08-13, 19:47.

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                    • Mary Chambers
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 1963

                      #70
                      He used the pronunciation of Purcell that was current in my childhood, with the stress on the last syllable. At some point in my life it changed, to that washing powder pronunciation mentioned by Jean. Perhaps no-one really knows how Purcell pronounced it.

                      EDIT I've just found this couplet from Dryden:

                      Now live secure and linger all your days,
                      The Gods are please'd alone with Purcell's lays.

                      Gerard Manley Hopkins rhymed Purcell and reversal. Flanders and Swann rhymed Purcell and rehearsal. All of these point to the washing powder version!

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                      • Padraig
                        Full Member
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 4233

                        #71
                        Originally posted by KipperKid View Post
                        I have always pronounced him as per the washing powder, but the last few times I've heard it pronounced on the radio, it's been P'cell.
                        The washing powder - not that I use it much - I used to call 'Pear-zil'
                        The composer's surname - not unknown here - I call Purse'l.

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                        • Padraig
                          Full Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 4233

                          #72
                          Originally posted by KipperKid View Post
                          I have always pronounced him as per the washing powder, but the last few times I've heard it pronounced on the radio, it's been P'cell.
                          The washing powder - not that I use it much - I used to call 'Pear-zil'
                          The composer's surname - not unknown here - I call Purse'l.

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                          • KipperKid

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Padraig View Post
                            The washing powder - not that I use it much - I used to call 'Pear-zil'
                            The composer's surname - not unknown here - I call Purse'l.
                            Daz ok by me

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                            • KipperKid

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Padraig View Post
                              The washing powder - not that I use it much - I used to call 'Pear-zil'
                              The composer's surname - not unknown here - I call Purse'l.
                              Daz ok by me

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                              • Padraig
                                Full Member
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 4233

                                #75
                                Originally posted by KipperKid View Post
                                Daz ok by me
                                What's Daz'l's music like? Sounds a bit Flashy.

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