'David Starkey's Music and Monarchy'

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  • gamba
    Late member
    • Dec 2010
    • 575

    #46
    Too awful to comment upon.

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    • Ferretfancy
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      • Nov 2010
      • 3487

      #47
      Originally posted by gamba View Post
      Too awful to comment upon.
      Agreed. I doubt if there was more than ten bars of uninterrupted music at any point in the programme.

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      • gamba
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        • Dec 2010
        • 575

        #48
        Thank you, ff. it appears to be the trend with almost all programmes. An ego trip for the presenter!

        It hurts all the more with my memory of years with a documentary company run by Basil Wright & others steeped in a tradition where the presentation of the subject matter was of prime importance. It wasn't all like ' Nightmail !

        This, followed by my experience of the BBC & ' Monitor ' makes today's offerings ' cheap & nasty.'

        Alas! It need not be so !!!

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        • salymap
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 5969

          #49
          There's now another thread on this floating around.

          Shouldn't they be united. ??

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          • salymap
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            • Nov 2010
            • 5969

            #50
            There's now another thread on this floating around.

            Shouldn't they be united. ??

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            • jean
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              • Nov 2010
              • 7100

              #51
              That thread was there first, and Caliban wanted to merge them - see #4 here - but doversoul and I said we'd like there to be something on the Early Music board rather than the more general General Arts one, and the two were left.

              There have been more responses here, so if they're to be merged, can the other perhaps migrate and join this one?

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              Last edited by jean; 25-07-13, 12:16.

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              • jean
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                • Nov 2010
                • 7100

                #52
                That thread was there first, and Caliban wanted to merge them - see #4 here - but doversoul and I said we'd like there to be something on the Early Music board rather than the more general General Arts one, and the two were left.

                There have been more responses here, so if they're to be merged, can the other perhaps migrate and join this one?

                .

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                • salymap
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 5969

                  #53
                  Originally posted by jean View Post
                  That thread was there first, and Caliban wanted to merge them - see #4 here - but doversoul and I said we'd like there to be something on the Early Music board rather than the more general General Arts one, and the two were left.

                  There have been more responses here, so if they're to be mered, can the other perhaps migrate and join this one?
                  Right, well we'll see what the Host says, jean. Probably better to leave them as they are.

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                  • salymap
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 5969

                    #54
                    Originally posted by jean View Post
                    That thread was there first, and Caliban wanted to merge them - see #4 here - but doversoul and I said we'd like there to be something on the Early Music board rather than the more general General Arts one, and the two were left.

                    There have been more responses here, so if they're to be mered, can the other perhaps migrate and join this one?
                    Right, well we'll see what the Host says, jean. Probably better to leave them as they are.

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                    • jean
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      #55
                      I watched the second one too sporadically to comment. Any opinions?

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                      • jean
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        #56
                        I watched the second one too sporadically to comment. Any opinions?

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                        • aka Calum Da Jazbo
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 9173

                          #57
                          i was engrossed in Starkey's account of how the monarch's personal preferences enabled, or otherwise, the creation of such wonderful music .... it continues as an excellent hour of informed and informing insight into the great music ... perhaps three hours a programme so that full works might be incorporated ...
                          According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                          • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                            Late member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 9173

                            #58
                            i was engrossed in Starkey's account of how the monarch's personal preferences enabled, or otherwise, the creation of such wonderful music .... it continues as an excellent hour of informed and informing insight into the great music ... perhaps three hours a programme so that full works might be incorporated ...
                            According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                              Gone fishin'
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 30163

                              #59
                              Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
                              i was engrossed in Starkey's account of how the monarch's personal preferences enabled, or otherwise, the creation of such wonderful music .... it continues as an excellent hour of informed and informing insight into the great music ... perhaps three hours a programme so that full works might be incorporated ...


                              It was very useful in juxtaposing the tastes of the two Charleses - the First loving order and restraint (and seeking to impose similar qualities on his subjects); the Second wanting a good time. I share the criticisms of the talkings-over the Music, but this is primarily a History programme that uses Music as a specific reference point and, because of the "Starkey Brand", it will be many viewers' first encounter with figures like Thomas Tomkins or the Lawes brothers. I hope many took the opportunity to access the website to hear the Music in full. But Calum's idea of a series of three-hour programmes (an "extended edition" on BBC4, perhaps) is inspired.
                              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                                Gone fishin'
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 30163

                                #60
                                Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
                                i was engrossed in Starkey's account of how the monarch's personal preferences enabled, or otherwise, the creation of such wonderful music .... it continues as an excellent hour of informed and informing insight into the great music ... perhaps three hours a programme so that full works might be incorporated ...


                                It was very useful in juxtaposing the tastes of the two Charleses - the First loving order and restraint (and seeking to impose similar qualities on his subjects); the Second wanting a good time. I share the criticisms of the talkings-over the Music, but this is primarily a History programme that uses Music as a specific reference point and, because of the "Starkey Brand", it will be many viewers' first encounter with figures like Thomas Tomkins or the Lawes brothers. I hope many took the opportunity to access the website to hear the Music in full. But Calum's idea of a series of three-hour programmes (an "extended edition" on BBC4, perhaps) is inspired.
                                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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