Originally posted by jayne lee wilson
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We took a train to visit relatives and watched Little Shop Of Horrors yesterday. My wife had never seen it and I hadn’t for over 30 years. Ever since meeting her whenever a song by the Four Tops plays on the Radio, I would attempt to imitate Levi Stubbs “Feed me, Seymour” schtick, and after a few decades of this she finally asked me what I was doing and it emerged that she had never seen it.
Steve Martin as the sadistic Dentist had us falling out seats laughing, and the music is by Allan Mencken who went on to write the great Disney scores for Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, et. al. There is a Supremes-ish Trio that besides having some good songs functions as a Greek Chorus
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Originally posted by richardfinegold View PostWe took a train to visit relatives and watched Little Shop Of Horrors yesterday. My wife had never seen it and I hadn’t for over 30 years. Ever since meeting her whenever a song by the Four Tops plays on the Radio, I would attempt to imitate Levi Stubbs “Feed me, Seymour” schtick, and after a few decades of this she finally asked me what I was doing and it emerged that she had never seen it.
Steve Martin as the sadistic Dentist had us falling out seats laughing, and the music is by Allan Mencken who went on to write the great Disney scores for Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, et. al. There is a Supremes-ish Trio that besides having some good songs functions as a Greek Chorus
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Originally posted by pastoralguy View PostThe Fablemans has to be one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen and as an ex cinema projectionist I have seen a LOT of movies!
Total self indulgent twaddle.
The director’s 1950s-set semi-memoir brilliantly examines how we edit our own life stories, and the repercussions
I often watch a film, then read more reviews, then watch again; the second viewing can be far more rewarding.... things seem to click into place.. I'll certainly watch this once its on stream....
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Once again - if you see one film, make sure its Aftersun; a wonderful very moving creation, full of love, warmth and depth. See #1290 above...
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Pastoralguy’s summary of The Fableman’s plot-line is spot on. Being forewarned (but being blessed with a very high boredom threshold), I was nevertheless utterly beguiled and enchanted by it. The casting throughout is pretty much perfect, and the screenplay by Spielberg and previous collaborator Tony Kushner is artful without being arty - the scene between young Sam and his fairground-performing Uncle Bruno about what it is to be an artist is beautifully written and performed. On checking the Oscar nominations, it’s not listed in the editing category, which is a shame because although it’s unflashy (unlike the frenetic Babylon), it’s enormously skilful. Indeed the art of editing is used in a crucial episode to show how different cuts reveal different truths, from which consequences obtain. And the last shot is a good gag. The film is an unexpected delight.
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Originally posted by Belgrove View PostPastoralguy’s summary of The Fableman’s plot-line is spot on. Being forewarned (but being blessed with a very high boredom threshold), I was nevertheless utterly beguiled and enchanted by it. The casting throughout is pretty much perfect, and the screenplay by Spielberg and previous collaborator Tony Kushner is artful without being arty - the scene between young Sam and his fairground-performing Uncle Bruno about what it is to be an artist is beautifully written and performed. On checking the Oscar nominations, it’s not listed in the editing category, which is a shame because although it’s unflashy (unlike the frenetic Babylon), it’s enormously skilful. Indeed the art of editing is used in a crucial episode to show how different cuts reveal different truths, from which consequences obtain. And the last shot is a good gag. The film is an unexpected delight.
So why is it that I couldn’t respond to ‘The Fablemans’ and yet ‘Cinema Paradiso’ is possibly my favourite movie which I have seen dozens of times?Last edited by pastoralguy; 27-01-23, 18:32.
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Originally posted by Belgrove View PostPastoralguy’s summary of The Fableman’s plot-line is spot on. Being forewarned (but being blessed with a very high boredom threshold), I was nevertheless utterly beguiled and enchanted by it. The casting throughout is pretty much perfect, and the screenplay by Spielberg and previous collaborator Tony Kushner is artful without being arty - the scene between young Sam and his fairground-performing Uncle Bruno about what it is to be an artist is beautifully written and performed. On checking the Oscar nominations, it’s not listed in the editing category, which is a shame because although it’s unflashy (unlike the frenetic Babylon), it’s enormously skilful. Indeed the art of editing is used in a crucial episode to show how different cuts reveal different truths, from which consequences obtain. And the last shot is a good gag. The film is an unexpected delight.
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Interesting essay by Charlotte Higgins in today's Guardian, touching on both Tár and The Fabelmans [sic].
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Originally posted by kernelbogey View PostInteresting essay by Charlotte Higgins in today's Guardian, touching on both Tár and The Fabelmans [sic].
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Originally posted by kernelbogey View PostInteresting essay by Charlotte Higgins in today's Guardian, touching on both Tár and The Fabelmans [sic].
I found particularly interesting Charlotte Higgins's observation that films about or around classical music or musicians tend also to be about mental illness. I don't think classical musicians are in general less sane than members of any other profession, but this obviously has more to do with the way they're perceived, or misunderstood. Are there any films centring on classical musicians which focus on the intensely fulfilling aspects of that way of life, as opposed to its dark side of obsession and borderline-pathological self-criticism (all of which are real of course)? I can't think of one offhand.
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Originally posted by RichardB View PostIndeed, although I haven't seen The Fabelmans and I don't have any particular interest in doing so. (Probably I'll get round to it at some point, but there are so many things I want to see first!)
I found particularly interesting Charlotte Higgins's observation that films about or around classical music or musicians tend also to be about mental illness. I don't think classical musicians are in general less sane than members of any other profession, but this obviously has more to do with the way they're perceived, or misunderstood. Are there any films centring on classical musicians which focus on the intensely fulfilling aspects of that way of life, as opposed to its dark side of obsession and borderline-pathological self-criticism (all of which are real of course)? I can't think of one offhand.
The Pianist was very compelling; and I've long had a soft spot for Amadeus...
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Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View PostWell, you need some drama of course; happy and fulfilled lives rarely produce that for the screen, unless you have the conflict-overcome, tragedy-to-triumph scenarios. But there aren't many good films about classical music or musicians really, are there? Ken Russell's Mahler and The Music Lovers may be in the exception-proving-the-rule category....
The Pianist was very compelling; and I've long had a soft spot for Amadeus...
Away from Classical music, keep an eye out for BAFTA nominated ( and BIFA winner ) Blue Jean, opening Feb 10. Jayne, this should be right up your street.I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
I am not a number, I am a free man.
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RichardB's question about positive classical music films has me thinking: I haven't seen it but isn't 'Mr. Holland's Opus' mean to be that? Maybe it's too saccharine to be much use. I thought 'A Late Quartet' presented a good useful portrait of musicians' lives, but again, it did centre on their personal problems and inadequacies rather than the value of music.
I suppose it's the age-old difficulty of making goodness entertaining. Richard III is more fun that Henry V.
As for 'The Fabelmans' I cannot criticise it as I haven't seen it, but the trailer was enough to make me want to keep out of sight and earshot of it for the rest of my life. I don't think trailers are meant to do that.
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