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  • french frank
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    • Feb 2007
    • 30259

    #61
    Originally posted by Anna View Post
    I know frenchie has bought a copy, I wonder how she's getting on with it?
    Much put out. I really wanted to read The Good Soldier but, well ordered though my bookshelves are, I couldn't find it. So being in the vicinity of Wassersteins a couple of days ago I bought Parade's End instead. In spite of the fact that I really don't like long books. And to make matters worse, I was browsing my shelves earlier today - and there was The Good Soldier, exactly where it ought to be: between F Scott Fitzgerald and EM Forster . I might read that first.
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • Barbirollians
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      • Nov 2010
      • 11675

      #62
      I have enjoyed it a great deal - proper grown up TV for people with an attention span longer than that of a gnat for once !

      Which is no doubt why it is on BBC2 on a Friday rather than BBC1 on a Sunday . The effluent against which it comes up against on BBC1 beggars belief . Mrs Brown's Boys ought to bring shame to anyone with an Irish passport .

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      • amateur51

        #63
        Originally posted by french frank View Post
        Much put out. I really wanted to read The Good Soldier but, well ordered though my bookshelves are, I couldn't find it. So being in the vicinity of Wassersteins a couple of days ago I bought Parade's End instead. In spite of the fact that I really don't like long books. And to make matters worse, I was browsing my shelves earlier today - and there was The Good Soldier, exactly where it ought to be: between F Scott Fitzgerald and EM Forster . I might read that first.
        Having watched the Alan Yentob/Culture Show special about Ford, I'm greatly looking forward to reading The Good Soldier - not least because it's relatively short (under 200 pages) and it sounds wonderful

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        • gurnemanz
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          • Nov 2010
          • 7382

          #64
          There's a free download on Amazon Kindle.

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          • Nick Armstrong
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            • Nov 2010
            • 26527

            #65
            Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
            Having watched the Alan Yentob/Culture Show special about Ford, I'm greatly looking forward to reading The Good Soldier - not least because it's relatively short (under 200 pages) and it sounds wonderful
            I really enjoyed that programme. For one thing, it explained why - if you'd asked me a few weeks ago - I'd have said FMF was an American author, had you asked me the question. I thought the same about 'The Good Soldier'
            "...the isle is full of noises,
            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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            • amateur51

              #66
              Originally posted by Caliban View Post
              I really enjoyed that programme and thought the same about 'The Good Soldier'
              In fact, reading more & more about Ford, I realise that there is huge catalogue of interesting-sounding writing in his oeuvre (hope that doesn't have ff and vints spitting tacks ). He's obviously someone of great interest as a person and as a writer & I feel complete putz for having got to sixty without investigating his life and works.

              Still, the journey of a thousand miles etc ...
              Last edited by Guest; 03-09-12, 09:58. Reason: redundant stuff

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              • jean
                Late member
                • Nov 2010
                • 7100

                #67
                I learned most of what I know about Ford Madox Ford from the recent exhibition of the work of his grandfather, Ford Madox Brown:

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                • amateur51

                  #68
                  Originally posted by jean View Post
                  I learned most of what I know about Ford Madox Ford from the recent exhibition of the work of his grandfather, Ford Madox Brown:

                  http://www.manchestergalleries.org/w....php?itemID=78
                  I see that this exhibition has long since past ... and I know very little about FMBrown too - such ignorance!

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                  • french frank
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                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30259

                    #69
                    Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                    Still, the journey of a thousand miles etc ...
                    In the case of Parade's End, yes: for The Good Soldier, more like a hundred ...

                    Ford said in the preface that he thought it was the his best novel - but that was before the Tietjens tetralogy. Retrospectively, Walter Allen in The English Novel wrote: "Judged as a technical feat alone The Good Soldier is dazzling, as near perfection as a novel can be. It is amazingly subtle, this account, by one of them, of the lives of four people who appear to have lived in harmony and friendship for more than ten years .."

                    Ford reported that one of his friends had commented to him: "It is the finest French novel in the English language!" It has his preferred title as sub-title: The Saddest Story Ever Told, but TGS was substituted because in the middle of a war the original title would 'render the book unsaleable', according to his publisher. Which might have been one of the few good outcomes of WWI.
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30259

                      #70
                      Originally posted by jean View Post
                      his grandfather, Ford Madox Brown
                      When searching for TGS, I actually resorted to looking under the Bs in case I'd had a moment of mental aberration. Not that I know anything of FMB except "The Last of England".
                      Last edited by french frank; 03-09-12, 10:26. Reason: Link added
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • amateur51

                        #71
                        Originally posted by french frank View Post
                        In the case of Parade's End, yes: for The Good Soldier, more like a hundred ...

                        Ford said in the preface that he thought it was the his best novel - but that was before the Tietjens tetralogy. Retrospectively, Walter Allen in The English Novel wrote: "Judged as a technical feat alone The Good Soldier is dazzling, as near perfection as a novel can be. It is amazingly subtle, this account, by one of them, of the lives of four people who appear to have lived in harmony and friendship for more than ten years .."

                        Ford reported that one of his friends had commented to him: "It is the finest French novel in the English language!" It has his preferred title as sub-title: The Saddest Story Ever Told, but TGS was substituted because in the middle of a war the original title would 'render the book unsaleable', according to his publisher. Which might have been one of the few good outcomes of WWI.
                        All interesting stuff, ff

                        I confess that I'd been put off even approaching FMF by the advocacy of Anthony Burgess in the 1970s, knowing what a bloody minded show-off Burgess could be at times. My stupid loss

                        Still, I have an outward and return journey of some 6 hours each to my week in France coming up so what better solution can there be to address this act of folly on my part
                        Last edited by Guest; 03-09-12, 13:24. Reason: address

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                        • vinteuil
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 12801

                          #72
                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          When searching for TGS, I actually resorted to looking under the Bs in case I'd had a moment of mental aberration.
                          ... or you might have needed to look under H ?

                          One of my contemporaries at university impressed me (I was easily impressed in those days) by filing his Stendhal under B and his Molière under P...


                          Nowadays I usually try to file authors chronologically rather than alphabetically...

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                          • amateur51

                            #73
                            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                            ... or you might have needed to look under H ?

                            One of my contemporaries at university impressed me (I was easily impressed in those days) by filing his Stendhal under B and his Molière under P...


                            Nowadays I usually try to file authors chronologically rather than alphabetically...
                            I assume that the English spelling of Ford's father's name, Hueffer, is in fact Hüffer in the German. Why then do all the bods on the Culture Show who pronounce it, pronounce it as Hooffer?

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                            • Nick Armstrong
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 26527

                              #74
                              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                              ... or you might have needed to look under H ?

                              One of my contemporaries at university impressed me (I was easily impressed in those days) by filing his Stendhal under B and his Molière under P...


                              Nowadays I usually try to file authors chronologically rather than alphabetically...



                              Classic stuff !
                              "...the isle is full of noises,
                              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                              • gurnemanz
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 7382

                                #75
                                Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                                I assume that the English spelling of Ford's father's name, Hueffer, is in fact Hüffer in the German. Why then do all the bods on the Culture Show who pronounce it, pronounce it as Hooffer?
                                You're right.

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