'Sex and Sensibility: the Allure of Art Nouveau'

[MrGongGong]

I think I know what Mr GG is on about, supping with the devil, etc., however what that has to do with watching a film about Beethoven on a widely available television channel, I have no idea.

which has no connection to some very nasty and dodgy people
but never mind I guess the wasp in jamjar racing makes it worthwhile

I hear that Rupe has decided to give away all his money to eliminating hunger .......... ooops no , missed that one

crack cocaine is a "widely available" leisure narcotic so it must be ok to sell it then

[Chris Newman]

Sorry, Guys and Gals, what has Beethoven (especially Beethoven heavily coated in treacle) got to do with this thread? If everyone is going to hijack a thread on Art may I protest that I want decent clean Beethoven (like Mackerras or Krivine):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izTVmeaW1bQ&feature=plcp&context=C42a9ff1VDvjVQa1PpcFNEn_HP54gSQLMDLoA2JYQO3WofaPpwOCw%3D

There is already a thread dedicated to advertising Rupert's virtues and vices.

Now, Art Nouveau......

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Sorry, Guys and Gals, what has Beethoven (especially Beethoven heavily coated in treacle) got to do with this thread?

Klimt's Frieze?

(By the way, JFLL: you're probably right about the Sixth-Form comment!)

[mercia]

Art Deco

did not this same Mr Smith present a programme (or series) last year on Art Deco ? I seem to remember him staying the night at various locations.

I think the only items I didn't particularly care for in this first Nouveau programme were the Mucha posters which seem to have been reproduced ad nauseam. Likewise poor Rennie Mackintosh's flower designs have been reproduced so many times in gift shop tat.

EDIT - wikipedia says this about Mucha - The Art Nouveau style however, was one that Mucha attempted to disassociate himself from throughout his life; he always insisted that rather than maintaining any fashionable stylistic form, his paintings were entirely a product of himself and Czech art.

[Chris Newman]

did not this same Mr Smith present a programme (or series) last year on Art Deco ? I seem to remember him staying the night at various locations.

I think the only items I didn't particularly care for in this first Nouveau programme were the Mucha posters which seem to have been reproduced ad nauseam. Likewise poor Rennie Mackintosh's flower designs have been reproduced so many times in gift shop tat.

Not that we can specifically blame the continued reproductions on Mucha. The initial prints were beautiful in their own right. I do not suppose Leonardo expected the Mona Lisa to be so popularly reproduced. Ooh! I better hide that bike poster by Mucha that hangs on my stairs!!!

[MrGongGong]

Klimt's Frieze?

(By the way, JFLL: you're probably right about the Sixth-Form comment!)

I think that is Secessionist (which we never really had in the UK)

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

I think that is Secessionist (which we never really had in the UK)

Ah! I thought "Secessionist" was "Austrian" for "New Art"!

(Y'know; just like "Neue Sachlichkeit" meant "Art Deco". Not sure what the French for "Art Deco" is.)

[salymap]

I thought part 2 last night was really interesting. Filmed in London with Mr.Smith visiting lots of places and showing gorgeous Liberty designs, amongst other goodies.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

I thought part 2 last night was really interesting. Filmed in London with Mr.Smith visiting lots of places and showing gorgeous Liberty designs, amongst other goodies.

I agree; an excellent programme. I was particularly impressed by Mary Macdonald's Silver Apples of the Moon and the links between the Glasgow School and Vienna.


(AND the silks archivist at Liberty's managed to get Mr Smith to pronounce "Art Nouveau" correctly for the only time so far in the series! )

[Flosshilde]

did Likewise poor Rennie Mackintosh's flower designs have been reproduced so many times in gift shop tat.

'Travestied' is the word I think you are looking for, not 'reproduced'. However often his wonderful watercolours of flowers & plants are reproduced they are never nauseam

An example of 'Mockintosh' jewellery -

https://www.baxtersjewellers.com/acatalog/mackintosh_brooch_425.jpg

A real Mackintosh flower painting -

http://www.universityofglasgowshops.com/images/cactus%20web.jpg

& fabric design -

http://www.achome.co.uk/pictorial/mackintosh/cmack52.jpg

http://media.vam.ac.uk/media/thira/collection_images/2006AT/2006AT3803_jpg_ds.jpg

[Flosshilde]

Ah! I thought "Secessionist" was "Austrian" for "New Art"!

(Y'know; just like "Neue Sachlichkeit" meant "Art Deco". Not sure what the French for "Art Deco" is.)

The German (& presumably Austrian) for Art Nouveau is Jugendstil; in Italy it's Stile Liberty, or Arte Nova.

[vinteuil]

I think that is Secessionist (which we never really had in the UK)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_Secession

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secession_(art)

[salymap]

I'm slightly ashamed of my big round biscuit barrel showing Seurat's 'Sunday Afternoon on the Isle of the Grande Jatte', although it is beautifully represented with very subtle colouring. But still....

oh dear, this should have had a link to #20 from Chris Newman but something has gone wrong.

[Serial_Apologist]

The German (& presumably Austrian) for Art Nouveau is Jugendstil; in Italy it's Stile Liberty, or Arte Nova.

And from memory the French term is "Stile nouveau" - so there is no "correct" pronunciation for Art Nouveau as the term is itself English, strictly speaking. Of course, my source could well be wrong.

[vinteuil]

as the French wiki says - "Le terme français « Art nouveau » s’est imposé en Grande-Bretagne, en même temps que l’anglomanie en France a répandu la forme « Modern Style» au début du XXe siècle."

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_nouveau