'Endeavour' ITV 1

[Parry1912]

Did you spot the touching tribute to Colin Dexter a few minutes from the end?
1:26:22 (On the wall on the right)

No. What was it?

I noticed that 264 HZ was Morse’s numberplate. I assume that this has some significance.

[Stanfordian]

No. What was it?

I noticed that 264 HZ was Morse’s numberplate. I assume that this has some significance.

Maybe music tones - middle C perhaps.

[eighthobstruction]

Nah - you watched Mark Kermode later on doing film review. He always uses words like that and phrases such as "post apocalyptic".

....no i avoid kermode ....can't stand him/hair/ large mouth [sort of moutrh you might dream about....]....trabant....it was more an Eastern European [Albania/Romania] dream , very dark and messy....rubbish heaps....aaaaagh....

Are you with me or against me Fred?....god are we to put up with him for four episodes, and his funny skinny bearded underlinig....and Joan being used as a speaking extra so we can see the dak brooding Endevour....the real Fred would have had the sense to wear gloves or wrap his hand....and Win sitting watching tv her rewsentment eating her away....do you want a cup of tea love....and long must Morse have the moustache....GREAT Led Zepplin though....

[Nick Armstrong]

the opening was a hoot!

It was! (Am going to have to watch the episode in instalments - the whole thing's started very well, I thought, judging by the first 40 or so minutes). Seeing Anton Lesser doing the road safety public information film was a treat.

Inspired, one suspects, by the legendary Goodyear ads delivered woodenly by Sir Robert Mark in the early 70s while still the Met Commissioner ("I am convinced that the Goodyear tyre is a major contribution to road safety"). Can't find a video of that; but there is one of the Not The Nine O'Clock News version....

[LMcD]

No. What was it?

I noticed that 264 HZ was Morse’s numberplate. I assume that this has some significance.

A notice referring to 'the retirement of Insp. C. Dexter' together with a photo of the author of the original books. Was 264 HZ the old medium wavelength for the Third Programme/ Radio 3?

[Beresford]

A google search reveals this site, which puts 264 Hz (and it's double 528 Hz) into the realm of natural sacred sounds!!!

https://whatmusicreallyis.com/papers/sacred_sounds_scale.html

[Pabmusic]

I have just finished watching this first new episode, and it was excellent. The opening was superb - things really were like that!

Something that wasn't was the execution scene (why was it necessary?). I should be grateful that we've forgotten (almost) the days of executions - but our collective memory is conditioned now by execution scenes in American films. To be a morbid pedant, police officers were not present at executions; the condemned was flanked by two prison officers; the hood went on before the noose; the slip-ring (not a knot) was placed behind the left ear. And - most of all - the whole thing took place under bright lights, and lasted no more that 30 seconds or so.

And that's from someone whose very first office in the Prison Service was half of the 'drop' at Pentonville - on the first landing in A Wing - the floor was wooden and hollow. The rest of the execution suite was the Probation department.

Not sure where Oxfordshire executions were carried out in the 1950s - Birmingham? Gloucester? Winchester?

I'll not be so morbidly voyeuristic again.

[PS: And British judges have never used gavels. American ones do. But try telling a film-maker.]

[Richard Tarleton]

Thanks Pabs - even without any professional insight I'd spotted most of those mistakes. Very odd.

Also I wasn't entirely sure what was going on with Morse's return to CID - DS Strange getting it signed off in a stairwell while assuring the superior officer that Morse was a good mason - was that normal procedure?

When the re-hidden sample case is reviewed in 50 years time by a cold case team it'll have Morse's and Thursday's dabs on it along with its original owner's.

[VodkaDilc]

DS Fancy getting it signed off in a stairwell while assuring the superior officer that Morse was a good mason - was that normal procedure?

I think you mean DS Strange, a wonderful creation of a youthful James Grout. Poor old DC Fancy was killed of in the last series.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

When the re-hidden sample case is reviewed in 50 years time by a cold case team it'll have Morse's and Thursday's dabs on it along with its original owner's.

- I presumed that Morse had wiped Fred's off, but he replaced it ungloved; very careless.

[Richard Tarleton]

I think you mean DS Strange, a wonderful creation of a youthful James Grout. Poor old DC Fancy was killed of in the last series.

Indeed, duly corrected.

[Nick Armstrong]

I have just finished watching this first new episode, and it was excellent.

Ditto and ditto. Classy stuff (apart from the errors interestingly mentioned above. I did wonder at Fred T being at the execution; and the replacement of the case was daft).

Above all, the quality of the script was a distinct cut above a lot of previous series - economical, letting some good acting and camera work do the job as far as possible.

[Dave2002]

Maybe music tones - middle C perhaps.

Close - according to this table - http://pages.mtu.edu/~suits/notefreqs.html

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Close - according to this table - http://pages.mtu.edu/~suits/notefreqs.html

- and spot on if you use A = 444 (as does the BPO, the BSO and others - which doesn't help the strain on the sopranos in Beethoven!) Apparently, Verdi succeeded in getting the Italian Parliament to get instruments tuned to A - 432! (Does anyone know if this is true? It would make a significant difference to singers if so.)

https://www.nytimes.com/1989/08/13/nyregion/as-pitch-in-opera-rises-so-does-debate.html

[subcontrabass]

- and spot on if you use A = 444 (as does the BPO, the BSO and others - which doesn't help the strain on the sopranos in Beethoven!) Apparently, Verdi succeeded in getting the Italian Parliament to get instruments tuned to A - 432! (Does anyone know if this is true? It would make a significant difference to singers if so.)

https://www.nytimes.com/1989/08/13/n...es-debate.html

Verdi's effort did not last long:

"In 1884, in a letter to the Italian government, the great Maestro Giuseppe Verdi expressed his concern about the raising and fluctuations of pitch (which at that time had not yet been standardised). He asked for and obtained a regulation of the pitch at 432 Hz. His main arguments were to do with the difficulties of opera singers and the risks that ancient instruments underwent when tuned to a higher pitch than the one they had been built for.

The name of Verdi has recently been taken up as a sort of banner for demanding a new standard pitch of 432 Hz on the basis of his aforementioned letter and the resulting decree by the Italian War Ministry, which in 1884 institutionalised the A at 432 Hz throughout Italy.

Unfortunately, this did not last very long. The following year, at a conference held in Vienna and mainly run by the British government, this standard was refused and, as a result, was also abandoned in Italy." ( https://hometheaterhifi.com/editoria...itch-standard/ )