Sherlock BBC1

[Anna]

You're not the only one - but, as my considerably-better-half pointed out, there was still the problem of how such a weapon would have got into the locked shower (and how it was kept as ice until it reached the shower room).

Exactly, and the door was locked from the inside!! But being stitched into a tight leather corset has the exact parallel effect of what happened. (v. cautious wording in case not everyone has seen the episode and we're giving away spoilers?)
But did you and mrs. ferney enjoy it? I shall definitely watch it again on Friday. In fact, I think I am in love with Sherlock ..... but there's some terrible spoilers appearing now that episode 3 will see the death of either Watson or Mary - surely not? Where's Rumpole when you need him, I always like his reviews. I'm sure he was clueing for looks!

[vinteuil]

..... but there's some terrible spoilers appearing now that episode 3 will see the death of either Watson or Mary - surely not?

... in the original Conan Doyle stories Watson has at least three wives *.

Wiki reminds us :

' In "The Sign of the Four", John Watson becomes engaged to Mary Morstan, a governess. In "The Adventure of the Empty House", statements by Watson imply that Morstan has died by the time Holmes returns after faking his death; that fact is confirmed when Watson moves back to Baker Street to share lodgings with Holmes, as he had done as a bachelor. Conan Doyle made mention of a second wife in "The Adventure of the Illustrious Client" and "The Adventure of the Blanched Soldier", but this wife was never named, described, or explained. It was mentioned in His Last Bow that Watson was rejoining the service in London once more. Watson married a third time in Oct 1902, after "The Adventure of the Illustrious Client". '

* some scholars calculate he must have had at least six wives -

https://www.sherlockpeoria.net/Who_is_Sherlock/WatsonsWives.html

[french frank]

' In "The Sign of the Four", John Watson becomes engaged to Mary Morstan [...] * some scholars calculate he must have had at least six wives

Perhaps some of them were the wives of Dr James Watson (The Man with the Twisted Lip)

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

But did you and mrs. ferney enjoy it?

Oh, yes - the plotting and placing of events in the plot were masterly, and the humour, and the relationships between the characters (Holmes, Watson, Mary, Mrs Hudson, Lestrade): wonderful stuff.

(I mentioned before how the scene with Watson and Holmes watching the guardsman outside Buckingham Palace reminded me of those scenes in the new series of The Bridge where Saga and Martin talk to each other: the dialogue revealing what they're not saying far more effectively and movingly than if they had.)

[french frank]

Looks like a bit of Moffat/Gatiss-type mischief http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...nterested.html

[Nick Armstrong]

Where's Rumpole when you need him, I always like his reviews. I'm sure he was clueing for looks!

Well having loved the first one of this run, I enjoyed the second one much less overall. Yes some fun moments, but it just didn't 'take' for me - too much mugging and playing for laughs. In rare contradistinction to ferney, the reason Ep1 worked so well was

I thought that it wasn't as tricksy/camp/clever-clever as the last series...

whereas this one seemed to me to revert to that annoying tendency.

Yes - the Watson one meets in Conan Doyle's 'The Empty House' was doubly-bereaved - Sherlock and Mary... I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the writers catch up and give the splendid Lars Mikkelsen



some true villainy to perform

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

hmmm now if there were any chance of that woman re-appearing ....ahem ....

[vinteuil]

... I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the writers catch up and give the splendid Lars Mikkelsen



some true villainy to perform

... as the odious reptile Charles Augustus Milverton....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventure_of_Charles_Augustus_Milverton

[Nick Armstrong]

... as the odious reptile Charles Augustus Milverton....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adv...stus_Milverton

... or C. A. Magnussen, as he becomes (to take account of his Danish interpreter)

[Anna]

Well having loved the first one of this run, I enjoyed the second one much less overall. Yes some fun moments, but it just didn't 'take' for me - :

Yes, we've had the amuse-gueule let us now get down to the main course, some really meaty mysteries to chomp upon! Such a shame next Sunday will be the last episode for .... I don't know, another two years?
Anyway, nerdy-geek alert: I, as a RT buyer, have got now all 3 tokens to send for the Penguin books this series was based on for only £1.99. How sad is that?
Edit: The only Conan Doyle I possess is a charity shop published 1957 case-book of 8 stories, I have never seen Jeremy Brett nor Basil Rathbone.

[mangerton]

Yes, we've had the amuse-gueule let us now get down to the main course, some really meaty mysteries to chomp upon! Such a shame next Sunday will be the last episode for .... I don't know, another two years?
Anyway, nerdy-geek alert: I, as a RT buyer, have got now all 3 tokens to send for the Penguin books this series was based on for only £1.99. How sad is that?

Anna, it's not sad at all, and I hope you enjoy them. The first one I read (aged 9 or 10) was "The Speckled Band", which turned my hair white overnight. On my shelves I have all nine SH books bought over the years. I've just had a look, and the prices range from 2/6 (half a crown, 12½p) to 80p, so you've got an excellent deal.

I am now going to watch Sunday's episode.

[Anna]

Anna, it's not sad at all, and I hope you enjoy them. The first one I read (aged 9 or 10) was "The Speckled Band", which turned my hair white overnight.

I am now going to watch Sunday's episode.

Cripes, you were white headed at the age of 9 - surely this must be the Case of the Gingers Revoking Their Scottish Ancestry due to The Major Who Wore The Wrong Tartan - or, Are You My Mummy? (from Dr. Who?) Sorry, keep a box of kleenex handy, and enjoy!

[Nick Armstrong]

I have never seen Jeremy Brett

Anna I really think that you would appreciate his interpretations: nervy, intense, primadonna-ish, charismatic...

There are many available in full on YouTube: start with this one, perhaps - beginning with a strop from Holmes about Watson's "scribblings" and the absence of "great cases" in the modern world ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epb0TwwrwHI

I think Brett might bring on the odd Anna *swoon*....

There are links to many other episodes on that page.

[mangerton]

Cripes, you were white headed at the age of 9 - surely this must be the Case of the Gingers Revoking Their Scottish Ancestry due to The Major Who Wore The Wrong Tartan - or, Are You My Mummy? (from Dr. Who?) Sorry, keep a box of kleenex handy, and enjoy!

That's called poetic licence, or something. My hair is still intact, and not in the least white - or ginger! The kleenex were almost required, but not quite. A different sort of episode, and most enjoyable.

I must second Cali's recommendation of Jeremy Brett - very much worth a look.

[Richard Tarleton]

Anna I really think that you would appreciate his interpretations: nervy, intense, primadonna-ish, charismatic...

To me, Jeremy Brett is always the Sherlock Holmes