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  • Richard Tarleton

    Originally posted by french frank View Post
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    I think I've already filled that role

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    • teamsaint
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 25210

      Just to throw my six eggs into the mix and, or whatever......

      I always thought of myself as a bit of a SH purist, having read them all avidly aged about 14. For me, Basil Rathbone and Jeremy Brett were just fine, but anything else was deeply suspicious.
      Anyway, as I watch almost zero TV drama these days, (no time what with all that time consuming music) these passed me by until the last episode of the last series when I gave in and decided to give them a whirl. Instant hit .
      Main feeling for me is that they really do capture much of the feel of the original stories....The edginess of Holmes, the great qualities of Watson, the pace, Holmes' frailties (in detection as well as as a person) the relationships, the modernity. Great stuff.

      This episode is perhaps the hardest one to pull off. I suspect it was for Conan Doyle, and I think for film makers and scriptt writers too. This is always going to be a plot that has the odd hole, the occasional bit of more than the usual trickery, so I think we need to see it in that light.
      If I have a criticism of the series, it would be the Mycroft character, who really seems a long way from my recollection of the superior, idle,but basically benign type portrayed in the stories. Too machiavellian, too hard? Perhaps memory is deceiving me, or the writers may have good reason for this, some deeper purpose. As an aside, I don't think the original Holmes would have treated Watson the way he did in the tube train....
      However, terrific drama, if a tad too dark for my taste, but I think that is how the world is now, and how it likes (or is perhaps is told it likes) its entertainment. Looking forward to the rest of the series.

      Edit: only seen 4 episodes in total: is there any music interest? Sherlock on twin turntables maybe? I see him hanging around electro gigs in the kinds of places that Beef Oven ! frequents, perhaps? The latter day SH will have moved on from the Beethoven VC , surely? but in good ways !
      Super Edit: Just watching episode 3 of series 1, music question answered . Still the fiddle .
      Last edited by teamsaint; 02-01-14, 20:19.
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      • muzzer
        Full Member
        • Nov 2013
        • 1193

        Hugely enjoyable. But is it churlish to observe that they didn't use St James' Park tube station? There were plenty of shots, it was easy to tell.

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        • David-G
          Full Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 1216

          I think it might have been on the Northern line.

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          • Eine Alpensinfonie
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 20570

            I was under the impression that District Line stations were twin track cut-and-cover, not "tubes".

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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26538

              After a hot shower, I collapsed on the bed like a felled tree on returning from the first day back at work today, just in time (21:15) to hear the Radio dramatisation of 'The Empty House' (see my link above). Interesting contrasts and similarities of course.

              But it was dramatised by one Bert Coules. Is this our very own 'Bert Coules' ? I can feel a PM coming on...
              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • Beef Oven!
                Ex-member
                • Sep 2013
                • 18147

                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                After a hot shower, I collapsed on the bed like a felled tree on returning from the first day back at work today
                Drama queen

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                • Ferretfancy
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3487

                  I can't help thinking that the train driver might have had some explaining to do at the depot when he returned his train with a carriage missing, and how long has it been since a late night traveller was the only person on the platform?

                  I'm sorry, but after the first ten minutes I began to find it increasingly tedious but stuck it to the end. Watching and listening with my surround system, I was glad that the neighbours were away, as the music and effects were deafening on a full range system, that is if you wanted to hear the dialogue. It was all very clever, but I'll go back to my two volume annotated edition of Sherlock Holmes.

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26538

                    Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                    Drama queen
                    It was the windy, cold 45 minute cycle ride home that did it, coupled with getting to sleep at 5am (holiday sleep patterns, too much Airport Express action )

                    Thanks for your sympathy, though Beefy
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • Beef Oven!
                      Ex-member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 18147

                      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                      It was the windy, cold 45 minute cycle ride home that did it, coupled with getting to sleep at 5am (holiday sleep patterns, too much Airport Express action )
                      Are we the same people that came through the Blitz?

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                      • Nick Armstrong
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26538

                        Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                        Are we the same people that came through the Blitz?
                        I had a lie down listening to the radio! Ok there might have been a snooze involved...

                        Churchill's power naps were a vital part of the war effort, by the way, if you wish to get historical...
                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • Barbirollians
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 11688

                          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                          After a hot shower, I collapsed on the bed like a felled tree on returning from the first day back at work today, just in time (21:15) to hear the Radio dramatisation of 'The Empty House' (see my link above). Interesting contrasts and similarities of course.

                          But it was dramatised by one Bert Coules. Is this our very own 'Bert Coules' ? I can feel a PM coming on...
                          Don't they normally use the old Aldwych station as it is listed and preserved .

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                          • Eine Alpensinfonie
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20570

                            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                            I was under the impression that District Line stations were twin track cut-and-cover, not "tubes".
                            Ahem!

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                            • jean
                              Late member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 7100

                              Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                              But it was dramatised by one Bert Coules. Is this our very own 'Bert Coules' ? I can feel a PM coming on...
                              Of course it is! I've known that since Beeb messageboard days.

                              (That station pictured above looks like cut-and-cover to me.)

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                              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20570

                                Originally posted by jean View Post

                                (That station pictured above looks like cut-and-cover to me.)
                                Yes - it is. But compare it with the one on "Sherlock".

                                And all that talk about there being no escape routes; there are plenty on all cut-and-cover routes.

                                But this is what we get in Sherlock:



                                Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 03-01-14, 13:39. Reason: Dreadful grammar

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