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  • Mandryka
    • Jan 2025

    Analysis: A New Black Politics?

    This programme maintained my interest through the final stretch of a long car journey last night. I listened to it rather than the start of Meistersinger Act 3:

    How the ideologies of British black politics in Britain have changed since the 1980s.


    Despite the title - which seemed to betoken all manner of ludicrous right-on-ness - all the contributors come across as sane and level-headed. Trevor Phillips is particularly good.

    And interesting to note that Linda 'Wimmin Are Angry' Bellos is now a savvy Norwich-based internet entrepeneur.
  • aka Calum Da Jazbo
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 9173

    #2
    thanks for that Mandryka i have just read the transcript that is available on your link ... [quicker than listening] i was interested because i saw Kwarteng on the bbc news channel discussing his 'Ghosts of Empire' and gradually realised he was a Tory MP in a very safe constituency ..... Eton Scholarship, Cambridge etc says it all in some ways
    According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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    • Mandryka

      #3
      Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
      thanks for that Mandryka i have just read the transcript that is available on your link ... [quicker than listening] i was interested because i saw Kwarteng on the bbc news channel discussing his 'Ghosts of Empire' and gradually realised he was a Tory MP in a very safe constituency ..... Eton Scholarship, Cambridge etc says it all in some ways
      I was rather taken with the 'street' Tory from West London and his references to 'my mate Georgie.' :)

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      • John Skelton

        #4
        Originally posted by Mandryka View Post
        I was rather taken with the 'street' Tory from West London and his references to 'my mate Georgie.' :)
        Shaun Bailey.







        Dave Hill: Strange things have been happening on the Wikepedia pages of the two leading candidates for marginal Hammersmith


        Shaun Bailey, failed Hammersmith Tory parliamentary candidate, has started his new job as one of David Cameron’s Big Society ambassadors ...
        Last edited by Guest; 02-11-11, 15:19. Reason: added link

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        • vinteuil
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 12964

          #5
          Originally posted by John Skelton View Post
          Shaun Bailey.
          ... stood as the Tory candidate here where I live at the last election; very much seen as the Tory's carefully groomed black dude for the area, he was very much expected to get in with a comfortable majority. He was defeated by a very mainstream Labour candidate...

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          • John Skelton

            #6
            During the riots Jane Hill interviewed Bailey on BBC 24 News, describing him as a "youth worker." No reference was made to his political career, to his Conservative candidacy, or to http://hfconservatives.typepad.com/r...mbassador.html

            Congratulations to Shaun Bailey, the Conservative candidate for Hammersmith at last year's General Election, on being appointed by the Prime Minister as Big Society Ambassador.

            Interviewed in The Times this morning Shaun said:

            “I’m going to the policy briefings to make sure somebody from the real world speaks to people who are embedded in Westminster. I’m going to argue the little man’s case. I am happy to be troublesome.”

            While Labour sneer about the Big Society, the Conservatives are working to make it succeed.


            Navigating the labyrinth that is the BBC's complaints procedure I pointed out that in order for viewers to assess what Shaun Bailey was saying it was rather important they knew who he was and where he was ... coming from, as it were. I got a reply to which I was not allowed to reply saying the BBC was impartial and they were sorry I thought the interview was biased. Not once in my complaint did I mention bias. My complaint was about the complete absence of relevant context. Fobbed off in their usual fashion, ignoring what I did say and attributing something I didn't say to me - I suppose they still aren't telling people who Shaun Bailey is.

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            • handsomefortune

              #7
              i'm looking forward to this, as the last 'analysis' on uk 'soft power' via arts and culture abroad was fascinating, in a 'between the lines' sort of way.

              I’m going to the policy briefings to make sure somebody from the real world speaks to people who are embedded in Westminster. I’m going to argue the little man’s case. I am happy to be troublesome.”


              pre listen - i'd wager that, as with the beeb's pat younge, bailey's been reading too much rupert murdoch waffle ...'champion of the little man'........... my hat! didnt 'the news of the world' (and others) claim the very same myth?

              'the little man' incidentally .... isn't that an affectionate expression, regarding a man's own p*nis? at least murdoch presents his inverted elitism in more convincing language, but it all amounts to the same (supposedly) 'anti establishment' message, no matter who claims it. though hope i've got it all wrong, and will be pleasantly suprised.

              ps my commiserations john skelton. agreed - 'context is all' ...which may well be precisely why it's missing in your beeb example emboldened above. on a similar theme, did you catch last sunday's r4 beeb interview, pre 'tory revolt' over eu? featuring 'a nameless tory back bencher', whose conversation was acted out, presumably by a member of the beeb drama dept? i, for one, sincerely hope this trend doesn't catch on in broadcasting political opinion.

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              • John Skelton

                #8
                I didn't catch that, though the idea of a backbench MP being voiced by an actor like a supergrass or retired paramilitary is ... wow. I suppose they see it as just another version of orf the record. If there ever was a plot BBC News and Current Affairs never found it to lose it.

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                • amateur51

                  #9
                  Originally posted by John Skelton View Post
                  During the riots Jane Hill interviewed Bailey on BBC 24 News, describing him as a "youth worker." No reference was made to his political career, to his Conservative candidacy, or to http://hfconservatives.typepad.com/r...mbassador.html

                  Congratulations to Shaun Bailey, the Conservative candidate for Hammersmith at last year's General Election, on being appointed by the Prime Minister as Big Society Ambassador.

                  Interviewed in The Times this morning Shaun said:

                  “I’m going to the policy briefings to make sure somebody from the real world speaks to people who are embedded in Westminster. I’m going to argue the little man’s case. I am happy to be troublesome.”

                  While Labour sneer about the Big Society, the Conservatives are working to make it succeed.


                  Navigating the labyrinth that is the BBC's complaints procedure I pointed out that in order for viewers to assess what Shaun Bailey was saying it was rather important they knew who he was and where he was ... coming from, as it were. I got a reply to which I was not allowed to reply saying the BBC was impartial and they were sorry I thought the interview was biased. Not once in my complaint did I mention bias. My complaint was about the complete absence of relevant context. Fobbed off in their usual fashion, ignoring what I did say and attributing something I didn't say to me - I suppose they still aren't telling people who Shaun Bailey is.
                  Copy full correspondence to Lord Patten's orifice, John Skelton? Bar-stewards!!

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