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  • ardcarp
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 11102

    #31
    The key thing is what is happening in front of the camera
    Well of course. But does that include a presenter driving or walking along somewhere totally irrelevant?
    the BBC was 'targeting an audience that wasn't interested and not targeting the audience that was'.
    Afraid so, all too often

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    • ardcarp
      Late member
      • Nov 2010
      • 11102

      #32
      Yes there is a great deal more to it [cutting and editing] but in some ways the best direction and editing is that which does not draw attention to itself. In a factual programme if people notice the direction or the edits before the content then arguably it has failed.
      Which I am afraid it often does. A good play or film relies on 'the willing suspension of disbelief'. The trouble is, with a documentary programme which is supposed to be factual, there is no disbelief to suspend!

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      • eighthobstruction
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 6432

        #33
        Originally posted by DracoM View Post
        I absolutely long for Oliver to walk into a manhole as he walks endlessly looking back at 'us' over his shoulder.
        ....Neil Oliver now a pundit on GBTV along with Nigel Garage....says and writes some very strange stuff.....
        bong ching

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        • Study Session
          Full Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 33

          #34
          Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
          ....Neil Oliver now a pundit on GBTV along with Nigel Garage....says and writes some very strange stuff.....
          In my experience, Neil is one of the best out there at laying bare the forces at work - from the WEF to the WHO - that are squeezing our freedoms in the wake of the lockdown. Doing a far more effective job than many of those who pride themselves on 'speaking truth to power' (eg Maitliss - a quick look on Youtube will find her moonlighting for something called 'The Tony Blair Institiute for Global Change'. How curious...)

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          • Lordgeous
            Full Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 830

            #35
            Some of the documentaries I've most enjoyed (and purchased) are John Bridcut's. Independent productions I presume.

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            • teamsaint
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 25195

              #36
              Originally posted by Study Session View Post
              In my experience, Neil is one of the best out there at laying bare the forces at work - from the WEF to the WHO - that are squeezing our freedoms in the wake of the lockdown. Doing a far more effective job than many of those who pride themselves on 'speaking truth to power' (eg Maitliss - a quick look on Youtube will find her moonlighting for something called 'The Tony Blair Institiute for Global Change'. How curious...)
              Asking difficult questions and challenging narratives that suit those in power aren’t terribly fashionable right now.
              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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              • oddoneout
                Full Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 9145

                #37
                Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                Asking difficult questions and challenging narratives that suit those in power aren’t terribly fashionable right now.
                Doesn't help if you think it will affect your job prospects or your bosses think it will affect the organisation?

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                • teamsaint
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 25195

                  #38
                  Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                  Doesn't help if you think it will affect your job prospects or your bosses think it will affect the organisation?
                  No, it can be difficult at the personal level, for sure.
                  I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                  I am not a number, I am a free man.

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