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  • ardcarp
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 11102

    Florence Foster Jenkins

    The film was on BBC4 tonight. First time I'd seen it. Very well done and at times touching.
  • subcontrabass
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 2780

    #2
    It came over to me as a very affectionate portrait of the final days of a sad and very ill old lady.

    Questions:

    (a) Do the BBC count this as part of their programming of classical music on TV?

    (b) Why the scheduling immediately before Cardiff Singer of the World?

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    • ardcarp
      Late member
      • Nov 2010
      • 11102

      #3
      Why the scheduling immediately before Cardiff Singer of the World?
      That did occur to me. In the BBC's scheduling system, both items merely came under the heading of 'singing'.

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      • LMcD
        Full Member
        • Sep 2017
        • 8458

        #4
        Originally posted by subcontrabass View Post
        It came over to me as a very affectionate portrait of the final days of a sad and very ill old lady.

        Questions:

        (a) Do the BBC count this as part of their programming of classical music on TV?

        (b) Why the scheduling immediately before Cardiff Singer of the World?



        The words 'delicious contrast' come to mind - a humorous but realistic depiction of the gulf that can exist between aspiration and ability.
        Excellent performance by Hugh Grant, I thought.

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        • Ein Heldenleben
          Full Member
          • Apr 2014
          • 6779

          #5
          I haven’t seen the film but something within me feels uncomfortable at laughing at FFJ’s recorded efforts. Some many young peoples’ lives have been blighted by being told they can’t sing in tune or that they are “tone-deaf” - whatever that means . They are then frightened to join in even when the event is primarily religious or communal . I think that is a terrible shame . I also think the cult of vocal perfection (to which I admit I have been a bit of an acolyte) puts a lot of people off...

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          • Cockney Sparrow
            Full Member
            • Jan 2014
            • 2284

            #6
            Occasionally I'm asked to generally welcome / encourage a brave soul who has come to our open rehearsals.

            Our MD obviously believes in baptism of fire if, for example, we are rehearsing Messiah, first item will be "Great was the company of the preachers". I ask them to hang on to the tea break ”it won't all be like this" but anyway if I end up saying goodbye to someone making a quick retreat I try to get a phone number with a promise to find a community or other choir they could contact. I don't believe anyone who wants to sing should be lost to such a rewarding experience.

            If only our Culture/ Health minister took the same view, everyone could get back to safe, still distanced singing.........

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            • Lordgeous
              Full Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 831

              #7
              If I remember rightly, diddn't Beecham choose her Queen of the Night aria as one of his desert island discs?

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              • Richard Barrett
                Guest
                • Jan 2016
                • 6259

                #8
                Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
                I haven’t seen the film but something within me feels uncomfortable at laughing at FFJ’s recorded efforts.
                The film is much more nuanced than making her into a figure of fun.

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                • LMcD
                  Full Member
                  • Sep 2017
                  • 8458

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                  The film is much more nuanced than making her into a figure of fun.

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30281

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Lordgeous View Post
                    If I remember rightly, diddn't Beecham choose her Queen of the Night aria as one of his desert island discs?
                    Not quite unless he appeared more than once.

                    Johann Strauss II - Mein Herr Marquis (Laughing Song)(from Die Fledermaus)
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • Ein Heldenleben
                      Full Member
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 6779

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                      The film is much more nuanced than making her into a figure of fun.
                      That’s why I was careful to link my comments to her recordings and their frequent outings on radio for the purposes of general hilarity . To which my response to the presenter is ok Leontyne / Dietrich give us a song !

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