BBC4 to be cut by end of the year

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  • Dave2002
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 18015

    #31
    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
    Interesting tweet (and ensuing comments in response to her) from Suzy Klein:

    https://twitter.com/suzyklein/status...748955653?s=21
    Phillip Pullman has indicated he'll support petitions, such as this one - https://www.change.org/p/british-bro...7-3c764e048845

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    • teamsaint
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 25209

      #32
      But keep 24 hour news.

      I think we all know why.
      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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      • Serial_Apologist
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 37680

        #33
        Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
        But keep 24 hour news.

        I think we all know why.
        Keep saying, "No more BBC4 is what the people of Manchester keep telling us they want - we recently found this out when we stepped outside our new headquarters".

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        • Jonathan
          Full Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 945

          #34
          Well there is a petition started (according to the Twitter feed) so I have signed!
          Best regards,
          Jonathan

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          • johnb
            Full Member
            • Mar 2007
            • 2903

            #35
            This is truly depressing news.

            BBC4 is a fundamental part of what public broadcasting should be and to lose it would be a tragic loss.

            (Admittedly, using the word "tragic" about the loss of BBC4 jars when we are in the middle of such difficult times.)

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            • DracoM
              Host
              • Mar 2007
              • 12971

              #36
              Originally posted by Jonathan View Post
              Well there is a petition started (according to the Twitter feed) so I have signed!
              Yes, me too.

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              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 20570

                #37
                The BBC has become a feeble organisation.
                It's desperate to be liked at any cost.
                It's devoid of ideas.
                It's never wrong.
                Many all of its so-called 'developments' in recent years have been copycat versions of other channels: News 24 (Sky), Breakfast TV (ITV), today's Radio 3 (CFM).

                Boom and bust isn't sustainable. The BBC had just one TV channel - then two. Along came two children's channels, and News 24. There was one radio station, then two more. Then the BBC took over pirate radio to create Radio 1, and a whole plethora of local stations cropped up, later with commercial competition. All this inflated the costs for the BBC.

                It couldn't go on for ever. Now we reap the lack of foresight.

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                • LMcD
                  Full Member
                  • Sep 2017
                  • 8466

                  #38
                  Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                  Yes, me too.
                  I've signed, but I'm not holding my breath ....

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                  • Count Boso

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                    It couldn't go on for ever. Now we reap the lack of foresight.
                    In fairness, they want to channel the resources on underserved young audiences who only have Radio 1 - and 1 Extra and the Asian network for young BAME audiences, and BBC 3 online, and 6 Music for Middle Youth. And the kiddies' channels.

                    I suspect it will be like when they were going to drop 6Music. The audience for Top of the Pops (have they started rebroadcasting Six Five Special and Juke Box Jury yet?) will kick up a fuss and they'll cave in.

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                    • Lordgeous
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 831

                      #40
                      How does one find the petition without using the dreaded Twitter, Facebook et al?

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37680

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Lordgeous View Post
                        How does one find the petition without using the dreaded Twitter, Facebook et al?
                        I'm wondering that too. I use Facebook but this is too big a campaigning issue to be restricted in this way.

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                        • johnb
                          Full Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 2903

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Lordgeous View Post
                          How does one find the petition without using the dreaded Twitter, Facebook et al?
                          The petition referred to by Janina Ramirez in Suzy Klein's twitter is: https://www.change.org/p/british-bro...b-b37f6fd1ad85

                          There might be other petitions out there but this is the only one I know of.

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                          • LHC
                            Full Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 1557

                            #43
                            Originally posted by johnb View Post
                            The petition referred to in Suzy Klein's twitter is: https://www.change.org/p/british-bro...b-b37f6fd1ad85
                            When I signed the petition last night, it had 1,900 signatures. It now has over 15,000, which is good to see. The more people that sign, the harder it will be for the BBC to ignore.
                            "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
                            Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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                            • Braunschlag
                              Full Member
                              • Jul 2017
                              • 484

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                              The BBC has become a feeble organisation.
                              It's desperate to be liked at any cost.
                              It's devoid of ideas.
                              It's never wrong.
                              Many all of its so-called 'developments' in recent years have been copycat versions of other channels: News 24 (Sky), Breakfast TV (ITV), today's Radio 3 (CFM).

                              Boom and bust isn't sustainable. The BBC had just one TV channel - then two. Along came two children's channels, and News 24. There was one radio station, then two more. Then the BBC took over pirate radio to create Radio 1, and a whole plethora of local stations cropped up, later with commercial competition. All this inflated the costs for the BBC.

                              It couldn't go on for ever. Now we reap the lack of foresight.
                              Succinctly put

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                              • ardcarp
                                Late member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 11102

                                #45
                                It's desperate to be liked at any cost.
                                It is odd that 'a public broadcater' should be so driven (a) by viewing/listening figures and (b) by currying favour with 'the young'.
                                The Young are free-agents, surfing the net at will (and good for them), so I don't see why a and b above should somehow be linked in the the BBC's obsessive corporate mind.

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