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  • Richard Tarleton
    • Nov 2024

    The Little Drummer Girl

    Just watched the first episode of The Little Drummer Girl. Brilliant. Florence Pugh is note-perfect, likewise Alexander Skarsgard and Michael Shannon.
  • Nick Armstrong
    Host
    • Nov 2010
    • 26540

    #2
    Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
    This is right up my straße!
    Can't believe I hadn't spotted Little Drummer Girl when I started this thread! Recorded (and looked forward to, given the comments on the Television thread)... and to be watched, along with Berlin Station!

    Good autumn for espionage junkies
    "...the isle is full of noises,
    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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    • LMcD
      Full Member
      • Sep 2017
      • 8489

      #3
      Episode 1 of the John Le Carré - VERY atmospheric! Certainly looks like a winner in this household.

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      • LMcD
        Full Member
        • Sep 2017
        • 8489

        #4
        Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
        Just watched the first episode of The Little Drummer Girl. Brilliant. Florence Pugh is note-perfect, likewise Alexander Skarsgard and Michael Shannon.
        Agreed! (Also mentioned on Caliban's thread for spy story junkies)

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        • Richard Tarleton

          #5
          No spoilers

          I have nearly always** been disappointed by dramatisations of Le Carré novels - on the strength of the first episode, this looks like being an exception. It is leaping off the page. The big screen version was a disaster - directed by George Roy Hill, who by then was in the early stages of Parkinson's and who never spoke without using the "f" word, it was at least notable for containing Le Carré's first cameo role, created hastily to fill a hole in the script at rough cut stage. The character of Charlie was closely based on Le Carré's half sister Charlotte Cornwell, at that stage a successful stage actress with the RSC who moved in Workers Revolutionary Party circles with the Redgraves, plus the odd TV part (anyone remember her in "Rock Follies" in 1976, with Julie Covington and Rula Lenska?). JLC, who was (is) close to his sister, talked to her at length about the life she led after watching her play Beatrice in a touring RSC production of Much Ado in Cornwall, rain drumming on the corrugated iron roof of the community hall where they were playing. The character Charlie's backstory is close to Charlotte's own (in the book, that emerges in one of Le Carré's signature set-piece interview scenes, which should be in episode 2). Le Carré wanted Charlotte to play, in effect herself, but she was not considered enough of a draw and, utterly bizarrely, and Hollywood being what it is, the part went to Diane Keaton. Some time later, the director said to Le Carré "David, I f***ed up your movie".

          (**Other exceptions - the Alec Guinness TTSP and Smiley's People, The Constant Gardener.)
          Last edited by Guest; 29-10-18, 08:37.

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          • kernelbogey
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 5753

            #6
            I felt there wa something odd about this film. I wonder - cannot be sure - whether 1979 wasn't quite accurately portrayed. Did young women wear sunglasses on the top of their head then? Was 'you guys' in use then in Britain? I don't mean to nit-pick (although I am) - just trying to understand my mild unease with this episode.

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            • Serial_Apologist
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 37707

              #7
              Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
              I felt there wa something odd about this film. I wonder - cannot be sure - whether 1979 wasn't quite accurately portrayed. Did young women wear sunglasses on the top of their head then? Was 'you guys' in use then in Britain? I don't mean to nit-pick (although I am) - just trying to understand my mild unease with this episode.
              It all seemed pretty hammy to me - yes, young women did wear their shades on top of their heads, which i can remember for as long as I have been alive - but in other respects 1979 was unrecogniseable, so I think I'll be giving the rest of the series a miss.

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30329

                #8
                Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                Was 'you guys' in use then in Britain? I don't mean to nit-pick (although I am) - just trying to understand my mild unease with this episode.
                'Guys' - non gender specific - was certainly in at the end of the 70s. I definitely remember noticing it c. 1978, so probably quite a new arrival [Here ends my contribution to thread ]
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • pastoralguy
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7766

                  #9
                  Didn't Audrey Hepburn wear sunglasses on the top of her head in 'How to steal a million' circa 1965?

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                  • Serial_Apologist
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 37707

                    #10
                    Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                    Didn't Audrey Hepburn wear sunglasses on the top of her head in 'How to steal a million' circa 1965?


                    Parodied by a Hepburn "lookalike" in a fairly recent particularly naff TV ad for some product - I never bothered to find out what.

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      #11
                      Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                      Didn't Audrey Hepburn wear sunglasses on the top of her head in 'How to steal a million' circa 1965?
                      She wasn't the only one:

                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37707

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                        She wasn't the only one:

                        Four eyes a jolly good fellow.

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                          Four eyes a jolly good fellow.
                          ... and six are better than four:

                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • Richard Tarleton

                            #14
                            I'm glad we've got those issues sorted . With regard to S_A's point, I suppose, apart from the clothes, the cars, the hair (eg the girl bomber), the banks of pre-digital surveillance equipment and cameras.....

                            I'm looking forward to hearing what fellow JLC buff Petrushka makes of it all, if indeed you can be bothered with it, Pet

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                            • LMcD
                              Full Member
                              • Sep 2017
                              • 8489

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post


                              Parodied by a Hepburn "lookalike" in a fairly recent particularly naff TV ad for some product - I never bothered to find out what.
                              Galaxy chocolate

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