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  • Serial_Apologist
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    • Dec 2010
    • 37703

    Originally posted by AuntDaisy View Post
    And planters...

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    • smittims
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      • Aug 2022
      • 4192

      I'd be interested to see what anyone (who's seen it) thought of The Return of Maria Callas on BBC4, as part of their Soprano Sundays series.

      Playing devil's advocate I wonder if it was the best programme to convert a non-classical-music-lover to classical music. They come on in glittering evening dress and receive a tremendous ovation before they've sung a note. And they (even the page-turner) troop off and back on stage after every item. I don't know how much they paid for their tickets; maybe they were so determined to enjoy it that they overlooked the fact that Callas herself was not in very good voice that evening (or in any evening after the 1950s) and they were just so over the moon even to see her after so many years.

      But like so many of these archive TV films it was a glimpse of a vanished world, and for me it was valuable for that. There was Ivor Newton, veteran of so many recitals with long-vanished singers. And Stefano, at any rate , was still in good voice. And Callas was after all a unique phenomenon, even in decline. And we wouldn't have this were it not for John Culshaw in his (then) second career as head of music for BBC TV, a few years that saw the films of Peter Grimes and Owen Wingrave. I was surprised when he suddenly abandoned his career as record producer when at the height of his powers (Billy Budd and the Solti Verdi Requiem) and I've often wondered if he was satisfied or frustrated at what he was able to do at the BBC.

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      • Serial_Apologist
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        • Dec 2010
        • 37703

        Originally posted by smittims View Post
        John Culshaw in his (then) second career as head of music for BBC TV, a few years that saw the films of Peter Grimes and Owen Wingrave. I was surprised when he suddenly abandoned his career as record producer when at the height of his powers (Billy Budd and the Solti Verdi Requiem) and I've often wondered if he was satisfied or frustrated at what he was able to do at the BBC.
        It has to be said that Culshaw has nevertheless had a brilliant subsequent career as an up-to-the-minute writer and satirical comedian: I for one never miss Dead Ringers.

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        • LMcD
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          • Sep 2017
          • 8488

          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post

          It has to be said that Culshaw has nevertheless had a brilliant subsequent career as an up-to-the-minute writer and satirical comedian: I for one never miss Dead Ringers.
          As it happens, I watched the DVD of the Colin Davis/Jon Vickers Peter Grimes last night. I have to say it didn't create nearly as good an 'impression' as Culshaw's production for the BBC.

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          • gradus
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            • Nov 2010
            • 5611

            Originally posted by smittims View Post
            I'd be interested to see what anyone (who's seen it) thought of The Return of Maria Callas on BBC4, as part of their Soprano Sundays series.

            Playing devil's advocate I wonder if it was the best programme to convert a non-classical-music-lover to classical music. They come on in glittering evening dress and receive a tremendous ovation before they've sung a note. And they (even the page-turner) troop off and back on stage after every item. I don't know how much they paid for their tickets; maybe they were so determined to enjoy it that they overlooked the fact that Callas herself was not in very good voice that evening (or in any evening after the 1950s) and they were just so over the moon even to see her after so many years.

            But like so many of these archive TV films it was a glimpse of a vanished world, and for me it was valuable for that. There was Ivor Newton, veteran of so many recitals with long-vanished singers. And Stefano, at any rate , was still in good voice. And Callas was after all a unique phenomenon, even in decline. And we wouldn't have this were it not for John Culshaw in his (then) second career as head of music for BBC TV, a few years that saw the films of Peter Grimes and Owen Wingrave. I was surprised when he suddenly abandoned his career as record producer when at the height of his powers (Billy Budd and the Solti Verdi Requiem) and I've often wondered if he was satisfied or frustrated at what he was able to do at the BBC.
            It was a concert for her devoted fans but despite Ivor Newton's tremendous playing, a piano accompaniment, with the lid closed(!) for dramatically intense scenes is woefully inadequate and for me reduced some of the recital to near-comedy with them bellowing in each other's faces. Di Stefano had the best of it and imv the Lalo aria he sang was the real highlight of the whole thing. I'm afraid that I do not worship at the shrine of Madam Callas, but I wish I'd seen her in her prime as her early records are very good indeed. .

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            • smittims
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              • Aug 2022
              • 4192

              Walter Legge's laconic comment was 'best draw a veil over the later years with piano accompaniment'.

              By coincidence I was listening to Callas this morning, her early '50s Traviata. Terrific. I'm told she weighed 95 kilos then but lost 25 during the decade.

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              • LMcD
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                • Sep 2017
                • 8488

                Berlin 1933 (started last night on BBC4). Extraordinarily detailed and brilliantly edited footage and personal recollections from nightclubbers, Goebbels and many others.

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                • smittims
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                  • Aug 2022
                  • 4192

                  When did Goebbels give his personal recollections? In a Radio4 interview, perhaps

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                  • LMcD
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                    • Sep 2017
                    • 8488

                    Originally posted by smittims View Post
                    When did Goebbels give his personal recollections? In a Radio4 interview, perhaps
                    By 'personal recollections' I meant readings by actors/producers of diary entries and extracts from speeches together with contemporaneous film footage. .

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                    • smittims
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                      • Aug 2022
                      • 4192

                      Of course. I'm afraid it was just my feeble attempt at humour.

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                      • LMcD
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                        • Sep 2017
                        • 8488

                        Originally posted by smittims View Post
                        Of course. I'm afraid it was just my feeble attempt at humour.
                        Apparently he was offered an interview on Radio 4, but he was too busy negotiating a fee for a starring role in 'I'm A Celebrity'. When he learned that Nigel Farage would be a fellow contestant he went back to Radio 4 who had, however, had a 'proper gander' at his record and lost interest.

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                        • cloughie
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                          • Dec 2011
                          • 22128

                          Originally posted by LMcD View Post

                          Apparently he was offered an interview on Radio 4, but he was too busy negotiating a fee for a starring role in 'I'm A Celebrity'. When he learned that Nigel Farage would be a fellow contestant he went back to Radio 4 who had, however, had a 'proper gander' at his record and lost interest.
                          Disliking his goose-stepping maybe!

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                          • Serial_Apologist
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                            • Dec 2010
                            • 37703

                            Originally posted by cloughie View Post

                            Disliking his goose-stepping maybe!
                            Well done you getting in there first, Cloughers!

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                            • johncorrigan
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 10371

                              I enjoy a wee bit Dr Who, though never a big fan of the Tennant. However, I really enjoyed last night's episode. I thought it was a great idea, and some of the effects were fantastic...and the ending was particularly poignant. A wee tear in the eye, I have to say.

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                              • Pulcinella
                                Host
                                • Feb 2014
                                • 10964

                                Have very much enjoyed Incastrati: Framed! A Sicilian Murder Mystery, on Netflix.

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