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  • eighthobstruction
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    • Nov 2010
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    Tom Waits : BBC4 Sun 19.02.17

    This looks like it will probably be a good watch and listen http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08g8hj3
    bong ching
  • MrGongGong
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    • Nov 2010
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    #2
    The man's a genius

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    • Old Grumpy
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      • Jan 2011
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      #3
      I'm not familiar with the man or his music, but having heard a couple of tracks on Breakfast in the past and, given the comments in #1 and #2, I look forward to it and have set the recorder.

      OG

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      • johncorrigan
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        • Nov 2010
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        #4
        Thanks - I fair enjoyed that - will be watching it again!

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        • eighthobstruction
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          • Nov 2010
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          #5
          ....Yes thank goodness Kathleen Brennan came along....just looked at wiki....numerous collaborations with many many people I've mostly never heard of....

          ....shame they didn't play one track from beginning to end....
          bong ching

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          • Serial_Apologist
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            • Dec 2010
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            #6
            Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
            ....Yes thank goodness Kathleen Brennan came along....just looked at wiki....numerous collaborations with many many people I've mostly never heard of....

            ....shame they didn't play one track from beginning to end....
            Any track, eighth, or just one particular one you were thinking of?

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            • eighthobstruction
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              • Nov 2010
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              #7
              I have none of his albums but first stumbled across him in the 70's ....I'm not much good at decyphering or remembering lyrics which is a definite disadvantage ....and for me (as with me on many things)it is the atmosphere and stage craft, plus audacity that I love most....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw2MjRcVO4g
              bong ching

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              • johncorrigan
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                • Nov 2010
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                #8
                Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
                I have none of his albums but first stumbled across him in the 70's ....I'm not much good at decyphering or remembering lyrics which is a definite disadvantage ....and for me (as with me on many things)it is the atmosphere and stage craft, plus audacity that I love most....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw2MjRcVO4g
                I love this vid 8th...In the Neighbourhood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLDA3GQpYJ4 - they played a bit of it last night.

                I saw him in Edinburgh in the mid-80s with a bunch of pals - he was fabulously enthralling.

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                • gurnemanz
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
                  I love this vid 8th...In the Neighbourhood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLDA3GQpYJ4 - they played a bit of it last night.

                  I saw him in Edinburgh in the mid-80s with a bunch of pals - he was fabulously enthralling.
                  Wish I'd seem him. He may not come to UK again.

                  That clip made me think of the procession in Fellini's 8½. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTmiA-uNSD8 (+ the exquisite Claudia Cardinale)

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                  • eighthobstruction
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
                    I love this vid 8th...In the Neighbourhood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLDA3GQpYJ4 - they played a bit of it last night.

                    I saw him in Edinburgh in the mid-80s with a bunch of pals - he was fabulously enthralling.
                    ....masterly masterful....Ithink he needs the strong inflence,direction, experience etc of a good producer/director to make stuff like that together....mardi gras//DrJohn/prof longhair/brecht/Wiell/New Orleans marching funeral bands/Bukowski - an endless list of semiotics, (if that is the right word) of left field off the wall....brilliant
                    bong ching

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                    • eighthobstruction
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                      Wish I'd seem him. He may not come to UK again.

                      That clip made me think of the procession in Fellini's 8½. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTmiA-uNSD8 (+ the exquisite Claudia Cardinale)
                      ....yes Fellini too....haven't seen that since 80's....I'll have a watch now'ish....
                      bong ching

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                      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                        Gone fishin'
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 30163

                        #12
                        Just finished watching this wonderful programme - many, many thanks for the heads-up, 8thOb. Waits has sort-of hovered on the periphery of my awareness for decades, but I've never had the opportunity to get to know his work in much detail before. Remarkable range of output; I was particularly taken by the Bone Machine extracts - I hear the Weill similarity, but ... I think I prefer Waits.

                        Loveliest bit - we'd seen him presenting himself as this bardic wise fool barfly bum in other interviews, but the extract from the Late, Late Show with Gay Byrne, when his wife was talking about how they met (and telling a colossal fib in doing so) - didn't he look all shy and embarrassed ... and even cute!? Of course, that itself might just have been another "front" - but that would be itself a testament to his versatility!

                        Highly recommended to anyone who hasn't seen it yet.
                        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                        • Lat-Literal
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                          • Aug 2015
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
                          This looks like it will probably be a good watch and listen http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08g8hj3
                          A pretty good documentary on a very good - even great - singer-songwriter. I'm not always keen on comments in these programmes from talking heads but it was good to have Ian Rankin there and Guy Garvey isn't bad value. I thought as a whole they got most of the reference points right - variously, and not in this order, Satchmo, Weill and Berlin Cabaret, Bogart, Kerouac, Partch, Film Noir, etc. Did they mention Sinatra? He is in the pauses. There are some parallels with Springsteen too re the romance of the night. I am certain that there is also Beefheart, another who wasn't mentioned, while in the interview style Zappa and the bicycle play early on and an approximation of US Presidents on occasions later.

                          Actually, while I love his first two clear phases in different ways, I'm not so keen on Bone Machine and afterwards. Two other people who could have been mentioned are Dylan and Bowie for their reinvention and I do think of Bone Machine in a similar way to Tin Machine. Bits and pieces from that point were really good and others not so. In some ways he was lucky with technological timing. MTV when it arrived was just perfect for his natural cinematic style. But I do wonder whether cinematic music is always enhanced by filming. The aforementioned romance - a word used often in the programme - is in a connection of emotions pertaining to environments. That doesn't need a film maker's own stylised interpretation. That might just be the problem that I have in general with the detailed observations of his distinctiveness. He often works along the lines of "but I've felt like that"!
                          Last edited by Lat-Literal; 24-02-17, 07:33.

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                          • Richard Barrett
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                            • Jan 2016
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                            I was particularly taken by the Bone Machine extracts
                            This is my favourite album of his. For me it brings everything I like about his work into sharper focus than any of the others.

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                            • Lat-Literal
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                              • Aug 2015
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                              This is my favourite album of his. For me it brings everything I like about his work into sharper focus than any of the others.
                              In what way?

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