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  • smittims
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    • Aug 2022
    • 4008

    If you think American writers are too wordy you might try William Carlos Williams

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    • DracoM
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      • Mar 2007
      • 12953

      Susan Hill - novel starring her central detective character Simon Serrailler

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      • Petrushka
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        • Nov 2010
        • 12224

        Originally posted by smittims View Post
        If you think American writers are too wordy you might try William Carlos Williams
        I mostly avoid American writers, though F. Scott Fitzgerald and some Hemingway are exceptions. There's just too much to read and lines have to be drawn somewhere.
        "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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        • smittims
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          • Aug 2022
          • 4008

          Come now, Petrushka! Hawthorne and Wharton (do you count James as American? ) are noticeably more concise than Dickens and Thackeray (fine though they are ).

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          • LMcD
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            • Sep 2017
            • 8377

            Originally posted by DracoM View Post
            Susan Hill - novel starring her central detective character Simon Serrailler
            I'm currently working my way through the excellent Simon Serraiiler books - next up is 'Hero'

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            • Ian Thumwood
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              • Dec 2010
              • 4118

              I have read quite a few American writers but The Great Circle was too pleased with itself. I quite enjoyed the recent Underground Railroad even if the first quarter of the book was a struggle. The last 75 per cent was pretty good.

              Like Petrushka, I have made a conscious effort to avoid American books. Gatsby struck me as over rated but it is writers trying to be too hip that frustrate me. Trashy stuff like Tom Clancy is another style I avoid. If I am.reading English books, I feel author's from UK are more nuanced and the writing is wittier. Some writers are irritating such ax Rose Tremaine but I would say that Anerican novelists are likely to be the ones I fund the most annoying.

              I would add that I do like non English writers and have recently really enjoyed the Argentine writer Claudia Pineiro. The writer Jose Rizal also made an impression on me as have a host of French writers in the past.

              I do wonder what American readers would make of some British authors. I think a writer like James Herriot would be a challenge because of the writing in dialect. It would be perplexing if you did not appreciate the world he described. Can't see Kate Atkinson appealing over the pond either as her use of dialogue is infused with a very British sense of humour and is often quite cynical. I think British writers like to allude to things whereas American writers are less subtle.

              I would also say I have no issue with reading books by female authors whatsoever. I like a female perspective

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              • LMcD
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                • Sep 2017
                • 8377

                Originally posted by Ian Thumwood View Post
                I have read quite a few American writers but The Great Circle was too pleased with itself. I quite enjoyed the recent Underground Railroad even if the first quarter of the book was a struggle. The last 75 per cent was pretty good.

                Like Petrushka, I have made a conscious effort to avoid American books. Gatsby struck me as over rated but it is writers trying to be too hip that frustrate me. Trashy stuff like Tom Clancy is another style I avoid. If I am.reading English books, I feel author's from UK are more nuanced and the writing is wittier. Some writers are irritating such ax Rose Tremaine but I would say that Anerican novelists are likely to be the ones I fund the most annoying.

                I would add that I do like non English writers and have recently really enjoyed the Argentine writer Claudia Pineiro. The writer Jose Rizal also made an impression on me as have a host of French writers in the past.

                I do wonder what American readers would make of some British authors. I think a writer like James Herriot would be a challenge because of the writing in dialect. It would be perplexing if you did not appreciate the world he described. Can't see Kate Atkinson appealing over the pond either as her use of dialogue is infused with a very British sense of humour and is often quite cynical. I think British writers like to allude to things whereas American writers are less subtle.

                I would also say I have no issue with reading books by female authors whatsoever. I like a female perspective
                My favourite authors include the following North Americans:
                Margaret Atwood
                Fannie Flagg
                Barbara Kingsolver
                Alison Lurie
                Alison Munro
                Ann Pratchett
                Carol Shields
                Anne Tyler

                At the moment, I'm reading Graham Norton's 'Home Stretch'.

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                • smittims
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                  • Aug 2022
                  • 4008

                  I was interested in Ian's remark about books by female writers. Naturally these vary enormously from author to author, and I wouldn't want to draw a generalisation any more than with male authors. However ,there has been in recent years a development which I dislike.

                  Many new novels are written by women specifically for women to read, on the sound commercial basis that women buy a lot of new novels to read by themselves. While it's natural to make these books appealing to women, the 'new feminism' has led in some cases to what strikes me as very anti-male sexism: books which give a very false view of the world and the relationships between men and women. Typically, all the strong enduring characters are women, all the men are ineffective, whinging wimps or selfish deceivers. While this may be put forward as encouraging or 'empowering' female readers , I think it actually exploits them by feeding them a lie they will swallow eagerly.

                  The finest female novelists have always written well for both male and female readers: George Sand, Jane Austen, Virginia Woolf , and I would add a personal favourite, Pamela Hansford Johnson. .

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