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  • vinteuil
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    • Nov 2010
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    #16
    Nemo was the name adopted by Hawdon * living in poverty as a law writer, dying in the rooms over Krook's shop. This, at least, is genuine Dickens...


    - SPOILER ALERT

    [ * lover of Lady Dedlock, father of Esther Summerson, buried in the cemetery of St Mary-le-Strand... ]

    'Bleak House' dates from 1852/53; Jules Verne's Nemo dates from 1869/70.
    Last edited by vinteuil; 27-12-15, 17:23.

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    • Anna

      #17
      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
      Nemo was the name adopted by Hawdon living in poverty as a law writer in the rooms over Krook's shop. This, at least, is genuine Dickens...
      Yes, and Tulkinghorn visits Nemo, who lives above a shop run by a man named Krook,

      Oh Please, you Nit-Pickers! let us least at least enjoy a Dickensian Christmas as we imagine it is ..... over our schooners of madeira and a pair of pince-nez

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      • jean
        Late member
        • Nov 2010
        • 7100

        #18
        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
        ...the future Lady Dedlock...
        Who's that?

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        • Nick Armstrong
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 26538

          #19
          Originally posted by jean View Post
          Who's that?
          The more flighty of the Barbary sisters... who was seen kissing Hawdon in the street (by the other, rather sterner sister).
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • Eine Alpensinfonie
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            • Nov 2010
            • 20570

            #20
            Originally posted by Anna View Post
            Yes, and Tulkinghorn visits Nemo, who lives above a shop run by a man named
            This has been driving me mad, but I finally found the reference in Chapter 10.


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            • Barbirollians
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              • Nov 2010
              • 11688

              #21
              I think Sam Wollaston in the Guardian was spot on - we have not had a decent Dickens adaptation since the wonderful Little Dorrit a few years back - great shame they did not put such a starry cast and all that money into the real thing rather than a cod Victorian Eastenders vanity project like this - three episodes in I gave up.

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              • mercia
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                • Nov 2010
                • 8920

                #22
                I wonder if we'll get a Shakespearean mash-up in the anniversary year. Who killed Hamlet's father - Romeo, Goneril or Bottom ?
                I'll fetch my inky cloak.

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                • Ferretfancy
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3487

                  #23
                  Originally posted by mercia View Post
                  I wonder if we'll get a Shakespearean mash-up in the anniversary year. Who killed Hamlet's father - Romeo, Goneril or Bottom ?
                  I'll fetch my inky cloak.
                  James Thurber's The Macbeth Murder Mystery would make a nice cheap half hour or so, with only two character's necessary unless the scriptwriter decided to incorporate scenes from Shakespeare.

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                  • BBMmk2
                    Late Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20908

                    #24
                    I didn't find this good at all. Perhaps it was the general mishmash approach.
                    Don’t cry for me
                    I go where music was born

                    J S Bach 1685-1750

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                    • Nick Armstrong
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26538

                      #25
                      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                      Isn't he a character in And Then There Were None?
                      No that was General Pile-O'Crap. Now that I've given up on, really terrible overblown boring stuff.

                      Can't believe more don't like Dickensian. What do you reckon ferns?

                      I can imagine, however, that over 20 half-hour episodes, it's going to run out of steam, and the excitement of the first couple of episodes (for me anyway, and Anna) is going to dissipate...
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • vinteuil
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12842

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Caliban View Post


                        Can't believe more don't like Dickensian. ... the excitement of the first couple of episodes (for me anyway, and Anna)
                        ... come now, Calibran - nothing to be ashamed of in being part of a small minority : after all, I and a few others like the music of ars subtilior - but probably more people like Justin Bieber ; that doesn't worry me.

                        You should perhaps only be worried if it dawned on you that this pertickler production was a bit naff and vulgar. And you're not thinking that, are you? At least, not yet...

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                        • Nick Armstrong
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 26538

                          #27
                          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                          ... come now, Calibran - nothing to be ashamed of
                          Oh no shame, not a flicker, vintool.

                          Just sorry so many seem to be missing out on the pleasure


                          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                          ars subtilior
                          Quite!
                          "...the isle is full of noises,
                          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                          • vinteuil
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12842

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Caliban View Post


                            Just sorry so many seem to be missing out on the pleasure
                            ... ah, I find that there are so many 'pleasures' which (apparently) gratify others...


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                            • Nick Armstrong
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 26538

                              #29
                              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                              ... ah, I find that there are so many 'pleasures' which (apparently) gratify others...


                              Perhaps it accounts for the greater preponderance of smiles upon the faces of the broadminded?

                              "...the isle is full of noises,
                              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                              • vinteuil
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 12842

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                                Perhaps it accounts for the greater preponderance of smiles upon the faces of the broadminded?
                                “It is indisputable that the being whose capacities of enjoyment are low, has the greatest chance of having them fully satisfied; and a highly endowed being will always feel that any happiness which he can look for, as the world is constituted, is imperfect. But he can learn to bear its imperfections, if they are at all bearable; and they will not make him envy the being who is indeed unconscious of the imperfections, but only because he feels not at all the good which those imperfections qualify.

                                It is better to be a human being dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied. And if the fool, or the pig, is of a different opinion, it is only because they only know their own side of the question.”

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