"Previn at the BBC" today, BBC 4

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  • Zucchini
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    • Nov 2010
    • 917

    #31
    Ask the Chorus Master to pick one of his charges - there must have been some who knew the part and could see a meteoric rise to fame and ££££££££££...

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
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      #32
      Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
      Ask the Chorus Master to pick one of his charges - there must have been some who knew the part and could see a meteoric rise to fame and ££££££££££...
      ... they must've been really peed off with Mr McCarthy turned up, then!


      Or maybe Karaoke might have been introduced to the UK a decade in advance?
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • Petrushka
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        • Nov 2010
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        #33
        Originally posted by mercia View Post
        if Mr McC hadn't stepped forward, what was the plan ?
        As I understand it and as reported in the Press at the time, the chorus member who was Thomas Allen's understudy was in fact a doctor and he went in the ambulance with him to hospital.
        "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          #34
          Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
          As I understand it and as reported in the Press at the time, the chorus member who was Thomas Allen's understudy was in fact a doctor and he went in the ambulance with him to hospital.
          Erm ... isn't there a bit of a ... well, pretty obvious flaw in having an understudy like this?
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          • cloughie
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            • Dec 2011
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            #35
            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
            Erm ... isn't there a bit of a ... well, pretty obvious flaw in having an understudy like this?
            Yes but given the choice of someone singing my part or saving my life then ....

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            • Stanfordian
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              • Dec 2010
              • 9314

              #36
              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
              Erm ... isn't there a bit of a ... well, pretty obvious flaw in having an understudy like this?
              Hiya ferney,

              A couple of years ago an opera I attended at The Lowry, Salford MediaCityUK did away with the second act of three as one of the main singers (that was not in act 2) became ill and the understudy was accounced to have gone home.
              Last edited by Stanfordian; 16-10-15, 15:51.

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              • mercia
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                • Nov 2010
                • 8920

                #37
                thanks for replies - I must admit it hadn't occured to me that one would have understudies in anything other than operas - not sure what I thought would happen in such circumstances

                are there spare soloists sitting around for concerto performances too ?

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  #38
                  Originally posted by mercia View Post
                  are there spare soloists sitting around for concerto performances too ?
                  I don't know - on the couple of occasions I've attended when the soloist has been indisposed, they've reprogrammed a different work (presumably with whichever instrumentalist is available nearby with a work with which the orchestra needs minimum rehearsal time). These have not actually been mid-performance crises, however.

                  If the conductor is taken suddenly ill, there are usually about ninety people ready, willing and able ... and waiting!
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • Richard Tarleton

                    #39
                    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post

                    If the conductor is taken suddenly ill, there are usually about ninety people ready, willing and able ... and waiting!
                    Brunnhildes need to watch their backs too - I remember Jeremy Isaacs coming on stage between Acts 2 and 3 of Walküre in 1996 to announce that Anne Jones was having vocal difficulties but that fortunately Wagner had provided for nine Valkyries - one was rapidly promoted!

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                    • gradus
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      #40
                      Don't know about conductors but the driver didn't turn up for the 9.30pm from Liverpool Street the other evening and there was no understudy to take his place.

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                      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                        Gone fishin'
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 30163

                        #41
                        Originally posted by gradus View Post
                        Don't know about conductors but the driver didn't turn up for the 9.30pm from Liverpool Street the other evening and there was no understudy to take his place.


                        Well, yes - Driving's a real job - anyone can be a conductor!
                        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
                          Brunnhildes need to watch their backs too - I remember Jeremy Isaacs coming on stage between Acts 2 and 3 of Walküre in 1996 ...
                          For a moment then, I wondered what the punchline was going to be!
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • Nick Armstrong
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26538

                            #43
                            Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                            What a brilliant musician, conductor, composer, arranger,....he's done the lot, and still continues to !
                            For example, I've never heard him conduct (or heard of him conducting) any Mahler other than No 4, but here he is in Mahler 9 with the Cologne Radio Symphony Orchestra!

                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • cloughie
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                              • Dec 2011
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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                              For example, I've never heard him conduct (or heard of him conducting) any Mahler other than No 4, but here he is in Mahler 9 with the Cologne Radio Symphony Orchestra!

                              Having said he'd done the lot he has not in general done complete cycles of Symphonies, RVW and Rachmaninov are exceptions and maybe his recorded repertoire, although wide-ranging was not as prolific as many of his contemporaries over the last 50 years.

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                              • Pianophile
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                                • Dec 2010
                                • 53

                                #45
                                Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                                Yes. I just googled his picture and realised it couldn't be him.

                                Great playing whoever it was!
                                Just caught up with the excellent documentary. A reminder of the great days at the BBC. A cellist chum informs me the cellist in question is Nathaniel Rosen.

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