The Hitchcock film with the Albert Hall concert climax

[Pabmusic]

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Enough interest to reply but wont admit it ,haaa

[Nick Armstrong]

The Hitchcock film with the Albert Hall concert climax

The Man Who Knew Too Much is on BBC2 this weekend, 11.25am on Saturday (6.6.15). This is the 1956 film, Hitchcock's second stab at the story.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b02xdl4w

The climactic scene, with Bernard Hermann conducting the LSO in Arthur Benjamin's Storm Clouds Cantata, is a classic.

Wiki tells us

Herrmann was given the option of composing a new cantata to be performed during the film's climax. However, he found Arthur Benjamin's cantata Storm Clouds from the original 1934 film to be so well suited to the film that he declined, although he did expand the orchestration, and insert several repeats to make the sequence longer. Herrmann can be seen conducting the London Symphony Orchestra and singers during the Royal Albert Hall scenes. The sequence in Albert Hall runs for twelve minutes without any dialogue, from the beginning of Storm Clouds Cantata until the climax, when Doris Day's character screams

I seem to remember this film has come up before, but I couldn't find the reference - perhaps it was buried in the depths of Alphabet Associations.

I was going to resurrect this thread http://www.for3.org/forums/showthrea...ully-than-this

But then I thought the film deserved its own thread... If it goes nowhere I might tack them together.

[teamsaint]

Here you go.

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?9351-The-man-who-knew-too-much&highlight=Hermann

This thread can now be rebranded " the man who knew too much two".

[johncorrigan]

Here you go.

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?9351-The-man-who-knew-too-much&highlight=Hermann

This thread can now be rebranded " the man who knew too much two".

That was really interesting to read that thread, ts. More interesting than the film for me to be honest. Wonder if the attraction is the London landmarks for those familiar with them.

Much though I liked James Stewart, and I really liked him, I have never found him a great fit in Hitchcock's films. Vertigo was mentioned elsewhere a couple of weeks back - he just never fitted the bill. Doris Day and James Stewart in TMWKTM didn't do it for me. The film was too long and too dull and made little sense to me - I once went to see it in the cinema and almost left early. I really like 'Rear Window' - it's one of Mrs C's favourite all-time films, but James Stewart leaves me feeling uncomfortable - of course that's probably the master director going about his work. Because I also really like 'Rope' but JS often looks like a fish out of water in it - pretty hammy: though, for me, the whole thing is held together by the over-the-top creepy wonderful performance of John Dall and the Manhattan Skyline.

[Nick Armstrong]

Here you go.

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?9351-The-man-who-knew-too-much&highlight=Hermann

I hereby create you Official Forum Ferret.



Brilliant

How did you do it? I put 'The man who knew too much' into the Advanced Search 'thread titles' box and was summarily dismissed by the robot for using 'too many common words' or some such cyber-tripe

What were yer search terms, teams? Pray spill thy secrets, o Ferret of the Forum.

[Pabmusic]

That was really interesting to read that thread, ts. More interesting than the film for me to be honest. Wonder if the attraction is the London landmarks for those familiar with them.

Much though I liked James Stewart, and I really liked him, I have never found him a great fit in Hitchcock's films...

Interesting, since he was one of Hitchcock's two favourite male stars. Jimmy Stewart and Cary Grant each had four films apiece. Stewart's were Rope, Vertigo, Rear Window and The Man Who Knew Too Much. Grant's were Suspicion, Notorious, To Catch A Thief, and North By Northwest.

Hitch's favourite females (anything tall and blonde really) were Ingrid Bergman and Grace Kelly, with three each. Bergman's were Spellbound, Notorious and Under Capricorn. Kelly's were Dial M For Murder, Rear Window and To Catch A Thief.

There were several female stars who made two films with him, but he was such a notorious 'hands on' (and somewhat sadistic) director that none of them made a third. Melanie Griffiths's mother (can't remember the name) was one - The Birds and Marnie.

[johncorrigan]

Melanie Griffiths's mother (can't remember the name) was one - The Birds and Marnie.

Tippi Hendren, Pab. I didn't know that she was Melanie Griffith's mum.

[aeolium]

Much though I liked James Stewart, and I really liked him, I have never found him a great fit in Hitchcock's films. Vertigo was mentioned elsewhere a couple of weeks back - he just never fitted the bill. Doris Day and James Stewart in TMWKTM didn't do it for me. The film was too long and too dull and made little sense to me - I once went to see it in the cinema and almost left early. I really like 'Rear Window' - it's one of Mrs C's favourite all-time films, but James Stewart leaves me feeling uncomfortable - of course that's probably the master director going about his work. Because I also really like 'Rope' but JS often looks like a fish out of water in it - pretty hammy: though, for me, the whole thing is held together by the over-the-top creepy wonderful performance of John Dall and the Manhattan Skyline.

I agree about James Stewart being wrong for Vertigo, jc (and I don't much care for his other performances in Hitchcock films). Either Cary Grant or perhaps Ray Milland - another who had been in a Hitchcock film - would have been a better choice, with that greater edginess of character.

[Nick Armstrong]

That was really interesting to read that thread, ts. More interesting than the film for me to be honest. Wonder if the attraction is the London landmarks for those familiar with them.

Yes it's a melodramatic thing but there's a strangeness about some scenes - you're right, the London ones - that make it oddly fascinating to me. The strange "religious" setting near the end, the taxidermist scenes, and yes the empty London streets in other sections. Unique atmos. but not the greatest film ever, for sure.

And thanks again ts for digging out the old thread. I was certain I'd posted that detective work about Verlaine & Rimbaud somewhere. Spooky building, that.

[Pabmusic]

Tippi Hendren, Pab. I didn't know that she was Melanie Griffith's mum.

Thanks. Yes, indeed she was (is?).

[Nick Armstrong]

Interesting posters in front of the RAH in the film



Just been looking up the LSO's leader as advertised, Granville Jones - obviously a figure, back in the day (I found a L'Oiseau-Lyre issue of Bach in which he was soloist, with Richard Adeney & Thurston Dart and the Philomusica of London); while the concert advertised in green on the right sounds a laugh... Bach's 'Art of Fugue' orchestrated and arranged by Richard Arnell...

[mercia]

Nova Pilbeam, child star of the first 'The Man Who Knew Too Much' died the other day aged 95. She was the widow of a great-grandson of Alfred, Lord Tennyson.

there's trivia for you

[Serial_Apologist]

[QUOTE=Caliban;333153]Hope someone comes forward about the RAH scene, but I have some rather poetic trivia which I discovered when fired up to find about locations for the film having seen in a couple of years ago.

Remember the scene where Jimmy Stewart is on the trail of "Ambrose Chapel"?

How did you manage to upload those photos from Google Streetview, Cali? Whenever I've tried the system has always blocked me - although working OK for doing parts of the map, right up aerial views. I'd assumed it to be some copyright issue.