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  • Thropplenoggin
    Full Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 1587

    #61
    Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
    I find it all perfectly clear.
    I'm sure a parade in your honour will be along sometime in the next millennium.
    It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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    • LeMartinPecheur
      Full Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 4717

      #62
      Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
      I'm sure a parade in your honour will be along sometime in the next millennium.
      Have I missed a rule-change? Is it now the case that all answers to a new post must agree with it 100% or be deemed risible?

      I do hope not...

      Back on-topic, for me the lengthy list of performers for the Nonet did catch my eye as rather excessive, not at all conducive to finding out which works were being played.
      Last edited by LeMartinPecheur; 10-06-13, 21:24. Reason: Improved clarity I hope...
      I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 20570

        #63
        Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post

        Back on-topic, for me the lengthy list of performers for the Nonet did catch my eye as rather excessive, not at all conducive to finding out which works were being played.
        That's a whole lot better than making such a meal of who presents the programme - which is of very little importance indeed.

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        • Dave2002
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 18021

          #64
          Radio Times revisited

          For years we had a RT subscription, but eventually gave it up last year, as we found we tended to use other ways of finding out what was on TV and/or radio. Often this would be an internet source, though sometimes the TV guides on the TV have been good enough, or occasional newspaper guides.

          We relented and bought a copy at Christmas, and I think we have had one more copy since. Obviously buying single copies is - per copy - much more expensive than taking out a subscription. Overall not having a subscription is cheaper, and saves on recycling, since so often the RT went into the bin with barely a glance.

          However, today I'm listening to Afternoon on 3, and there is a piece I can't identify - most probably by Ginastera.
          The programme details for the Ao3 programme itself, and in the schedule are so minimal as to be almost useless. Is this an area where RT does still do better, or is that also offering minimal guidance for listeners?

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          • zola
            Full Member
            • May 2011
            • 656

            #65
            Radio Times states the first item on Afternoon on 3 should be Copland's Appalachian Spring, hence I am not listening If there is a piece by Ginastera instead, one assumes it is a filler or late Radio 3 change ?

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            • teamsaint
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 25210

              #66
              The Ginastera piece was Dances from the Ballet Estancia.
              Ulster Orchestra.

              on the playlist now.
              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30301

                #67
                Do you think they alter the details on the RT website? I would have doubted it. This is what is currently printed:

                Penny Gore showcases some of the Ulster Orchestra's most recent recordings, including works by Nieslen [sic] and Sibelius as part of Afternoon on 3's Nordic and Baltic season, culminating in Walton's First Symphony. Ginastera's Suite from Estancia. 2.10 Copland: Appalachian Spring (for 16 instruments). Ulster Orchestra, conductor Maxime Tortelier. 2.40 Nielsen: Violin Concerto, Op 33. Baiba Skride, Ulster Orchestra, conductor Ben Gernon. 3.15 Sibelius: Overture in E. Ulster Orchestra, conductor Esa Heikkilä. 3.25 Walton: Symphony No 1 in B flat minor. Ulster Orchestra, conductor Paul Watkins.
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • mercia
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 8920

                  #68
                  my online listings spell Nielsen correctly, have Esa Keikkila and say that the Copland is conducted by Michael Francis (but don't say that its the 16 instrument version)

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30301

                    #69
                    Originally posted by mercia View Post
                    my online listings spell Nielsen correctly, have Esa Keikkila and say that the Copland is conducted by Michael Francis (but don't say that its the 16 instrument version)
                    Where is yours listed, mercs? Mine was here
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • Dave2002
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 18021

                      #70
                      Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                      The Ginastera piece was Dances from the Ballet Estancia.
                      Ulster Orchestra.

                      on the playlist now.
                      Indeed, but that was not what was showing as the piece was playing. Perhaps we are now only being offered a magical mystery tour, where we get to find out what was played after the event - which I think was a practice to comply with legal rulings in the USA - as a form of anti-piracy practice.

                      Why bother to publish schedules at all if we are going to have that kind of thing over here too?!

                      Does anyone have this week's RT (printed copy) to see what it says there?

                      The somewhat minimalist details which I saw on two online sites stated:

                      The Ulster Orchestra performs music by Ginastera, Copland, Nielsen, Sibelius and Walton.
                      The details do change during the programme, but are not good for pre-planning.

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                      • Honoured Guest

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                        Does anyone have this week's RT (printed copy) to see what it says there?
                        Yes, see post #2 above.

                        On Tuesday this week, the Ulster Orchestra published the revised playlist. The only change from the published Radio Times listings is that the Ginastera was added to open today's programme, slightly deferring the Copland and displacing the originally announced Part. http://ulsterorchestra.com/news/ulst...afternoon-on-3
                        Last edited by Guest; 27-03-15, 15:09.

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30301

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                          Why bother to publish schedules at all if we are going to have that kind of thing over here too?!
                          The whole playlist seems to be there now - in the plain print format. Only the 'interactive' list is going up as they play each piece.
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • mercia
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 8920

                            #73
                            Originally posted by french frank View Post
                            Where is yours listed, mercs? Mine was here
                            http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/dh...ius-and-walton
                            its a thing called UK TV Guide - radio and TV listings
                            Last edited by mercia; 27-03-15, 15:33.

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                            • pastoralguy
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 7759

                              #74
                              IMHO, standards slipped when the Radio Times was obliged to take the listings of the commercial stations. Combining these downmarket televisual efforts with those of the BBC gave less space for radio listing.

                              The Radio Times should be devoted to BBC productions.

                              And isn't it time Andrew MacGregor was featured on the cover...?!

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                              • Andrew Slater
                                Full Member
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 1793

                                #75
                                The details were on the R3 webpage (as they still are - click on 'show more') last Friday, as that was when I ran my listings prog: see this.

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