Poldark 2015

[vinteuil]

No. Just a very soft cushion.

which may need fluffing up a bit...

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluffer

[ o what an education wiki provides ]

[Flosshilde]

You mean, like Will you come and scythe my lawn please?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/cele...proposals.html

An old-established hardware shop (nudge nudge) in the centre of Glasgow has recently closed. It was known for its beautifully hand-written notices in the window, promoting various goods. eg on a display of garden shears 'Keep your bush nicely trimmed'

[kernelbogey]

I don't understand why producers spend huge amounts on authentic costumes, covering up yellow lines on streets etc but then have regional accents that are hopelessly inaccurate.

I'm open to correction by boarders who live in Cornwall; but the little I watched of Poldark before giving up because of its advertisement-speed editing suggested that the actors were speaking in Central Casting West Country All Purpose Dialect - evading the distinctive rhythms of Cornish dialect.

[Radio64]

...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluffer

[ o what an education wiki provides ]

(glad someone is paying attention...)

[Anna]

I don't understand why producers spend huge amounts on authentic costumes, covering up yellow lines on streets etc but then have regional accents that are hopelessly inaccurate.

I'm open to correction by boarders who live in Cornwall; but the little I watched of Poldark before giving up because of its advertisement-speed editing suggested that the actors were speaking in Central Casting West Country All Purpose Dialect - evading the distinctive rhythms of Cornish dialect.

Eleanor Tomlinson (Demelza), who is from E. Yorkshire, said they had two Cornish linguist coaches and ""I learnt about how their jaws were a lot tighter because of the wind, and living so close to the sea, the salt makes you speak in a different way. They clench their jaw tightly so you get a completely different sound." I'll leave our Cornish residents to comment on whether they have permanently clenched jaws and salty lips.

Poldark, like other BBC costume dramas is also made for the overseas market and regional accents, particularly to Americans, seem difficult. (Hence fuss lately over James Corden taking over the late night chat show and whether he could be understood - although I think some American accents need subtitles!)

[kernelbogey]

Good points, Anna. I afterwards thought that to be authentic, the script itself would have to include the linguistic traits of Cornish regional English. E.g. the auxiliary verb 'We do like a bit of...'; 'Don't 'e think that of un'; expressions like 'over to Truro' and so on. But what is equally distinctive is the lilt of the demotic speech.

In truth Demelza et al would have spoken actual Cornish, i.e the Celtic language which died out in the mid-nineteenth century, and now revived in evening classes etc: but of course that wouldn't work, and not just for the american market!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Eleanor Tomlinson (Demelza), who is from E. Yorkshire, said they had two Cornish linguist coaches and ""I learnt about how their jaws were a lot tighter because of the wind, and living so close to the sea, the salt makes you speak in a different way. They clench their jaw tightly so you get a completely different sound." I'll leave our Cornish residents to comment on whether they have permanently clenched jaws and salty lips.

That sounds like that old myth about the Australian accent originating in the population having to screw their eyes against the intense sunlight!

Ms Tomlinson is very young (I speak in my carpet slippers, puffing sagaciously away on my briar pipe) - on reflection she might realize that, were this true, everybody who lived near the sea would speak with a clenched jaw etc and have problems with wind; including, for example, the people of Bridlington, East Yorkshire!

[Serial_Apologist]

That sounds like that old myth about the Australian accent originating in the population having to screw their eyes against the intense sunlight!

Ms Tomlinson is very young (I speak in my carpet slippers, puffing sagaciously away on my briar pipe) - on reflection she might realize that, were this true, everybody who lived near the sea would speak with a clenched jaw etc and have problems with wind; including, for example, the people of Bridlington, East Yorkshire!

And local-borns from the Greenwich, Charlton and Woolwich districts of SE London too, by the way. Err....

[Flosshilde]

everybody who lived near the sea would speak with a clenched jaw etc and have problems with wind;

Caused by consuming too many cockles, perhaps?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Caused by consuming too many cockles, perhaps?

That and pulling the odd mussel or two.

[Nick Armstrong]

That and pulling the odd mussel or two.

*flicks through joke book: crabs... clams... pollock... *

.... nah, better not lower the tone.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

.... nah, better not lower the tone.

Oh go on: it's more authentic at Baroque pitch

[eighthobstruction]

Found myself whistling 2015 Poldark theme tune this morning ....midweek!