Radio Times 1923-2009 BBC Genome Project

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  • french frank
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    • Feb 2007
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    #16
    Originally posted by Honoured Guest View Post
    It now seems fitting that I've been banned from posting in the Classical Music forum here.
    My understanding was that you weren't very interested in classical music, and thought there was too much of it on Radio 3, although you enjoyed regularly having a dig at the classical enthusiasts. You were excluded for making a particularly offensive remark roughly on the lines that they were autistic spectrum cases.
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • mercia
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      • Nov 2010
      • 8920

      #17
      on the merge I don't think my thread title is as appealing as the other one (permission to change mine)

      I wonder why they called it "Genome"

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      • french frank
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        • Feb 2007
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        #18
        Originally posted by mercia View Post
        on the merge I don't think my thread title is as appealing as the other one (permission to change mine)

        I wonder why they called it "Genome"
        I've changed it to Petrushka's title - hope that's right?

        Funny, I was thinking in bed last night that I don't really understand what a genome is: note to self - check in the morning.


        [Edit: 'In modern molecular biology and genetics, the genome is the genetic material of an organism. It is encoded either in DNA or, for many types of viruses, in RNA.' Ah, so that's why ... ]
        Last edited by french frank; 20-10-14, 08:46.
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • french frank
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          • Feb 2007
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          #19
          In case anyone's interested, there are FAQs including how people can help. It's not a wiki in that you can't edit directly, but you can notify mistakes - including the OCR errors - which should eventually get corrected.
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • Petrushka
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            • Nov 2010
            • 12329

            #20
            There must be many, many times during the course of broadcasting history when the schedules have had to be torn up to take into account events of one kind or another.

            Then there are also plain, silly mistakes. I've corrected one such on the Radio 3 page for May 21 1978. R3 had embarrassingly got the wrong week for a live Vienna Festival relay, which is why you see the same concert listed for the following Sunday, May 28. R3 broadcast a VPO/Karajan London concert from 1965 instead (Mozart 29 & Bruckner 8 for those interested). I'm afraid my brain is wired to remember such things.

            If anyone can recall such details I'd urge them to use the edit facility before memories fade.

            I hope that in time full concert details of works performed will be available. It would be very strange if such details were not included in Radio Times.

            On the question of the Genome title; anyone would think that the BBC wanted as few people as possible to know about it. In fact, it's an invaluable view of broadcasting and social history and they should be shouting about it from the rooftops.
            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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            • frankwm

              #21
              Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
              In fact, it's an invaluable view of broadcasting and social history and they should be shouting about it from the rooftops.
              Quite Pathetic...a real joke.
              How much did The Times Archive cost to create (available free via Library Subscription) currently from 1785 to 2008..all issues completely searchable.

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              • french frank
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                • Feb 2007
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                #22
                Originally posted by frankwm View Post
                How much did The Times Archive cost to create (available free via Library Subscription) currently from 1785 to 2008..all issues completely searchable.
                What is Library Subscription? Do you mean your library pays a subscription? I think the digitisation work for The Times was done by the commercial publisher Cengage, with the subscription paid for you by your library. So it might be more complicated to provide Radio Times 'free' in that way. Global sales might be smaller.
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • Zucchini
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 917

                  #23
                  Originally posted by french frank View Post
                  Global sales might be smaller.
                  By a factor of several billion I should think

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                  • french frank
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                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30507

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
                    By a factor of several billion I should think
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • frankwm

                      #25
                      Absolutely correct about Cengage/County Council paying a Subscription for access to this/other similar databases.

                      But this is a low-rent offering - limited use/interest; and as a source for 'social history' - well - near-forget that.

                      My first knowledge of this misfire was the recent link to the 1968 'Chalk Garden' - where I get a cast-list (essentially in the back announcement) and 'see page 36' - which is seemingly unavailable - thus akin to Private Eye's 'continued on page 94'..

                      This is 'social history'

                      ...and the following pages - or even if limited to searchable editorial/listings - where you will also find programme illustrations by such as Eric Fraser:
                      A new London retrospective celebrates the much-loved British illustrator of books and magazines who defined the look of the Radio Times. We take a look at the highlights


                      Very disappointing, as a digitized RT archive was an obvious omission (even if the audience is limited) - and even if some library copies had been used for Blue Peter papier-mache projects (only kidding: but my recollection is the BBC didn't retain anything like a complete-run).

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                      • french frank
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                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30507

                        #26
                        Originally posted by frankwm View Post
                        Very disappointing, as a digitized RT archive was an obvious omission (even if the audience is limited)
                        Indeed, very imperfect.

                        What does the word(?) BETA after the Genome title indicate, I wonder ... ?
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • Zucchini
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          What does the word(?) BETA after the Genome title indicate, I wonder ... ?
                          E & OE...Testing, testing...The publisher accepts no responsibility for death or injury...etc

                          Probably
                          Last edited by Zucchini; 28-10-14, 21:54.

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                          • french frank
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                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30507

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
                            E & OE...Testing, testing...The publisher accept no responsibility for death or injury...etc

                            Probably
                            My guess is that it's a solely(?) BBC (?) project and given the debacle over the Digital Media Initiative they're not keen to spend oodles of licence fee payers' cash on it. Work In Progress.
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • Zucchini
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 917

                              #29
                              Yup. Makes sense

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                              • MarkG
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                                • Apr 2011
                                • 119

                                #30
                                beta version (plural beta versions)

                                (computing, technology) A development status given to a program or application that contains most of the major features, but is not yet complete. Sometimes these versions are released only to a select group of people, or to the general public. The testers are usually expected to report any bugs they encounter or any changes they'd like to see before the final release. This is the second major stage of development following the alpha version, and comes before the release candidate.
                                Might be why they are not heavily promoting it

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