Roger McGough's verse in Moliere

[amateur51]

Your findings are entirely irrelevant to my judgment.

[french frank]

By whatever criteria you can to judge him, I find Roger McGough to be a very poor poet indeed.

Ther's no arguing with that, if you say so.

[Mandryka]

Your findings are entirely irrelevant to my judgment.

In all fairness, there's no reason why they should be. :)

I will say, though: Moliere has suffered more than most French authors from the attentions of ham-fisted and wilfully inaccurate English 'adaptors' of his work. I'm not sure that his reputation in the UK ever recovered from the unintentional(?) trashing he received at the bungling hands of Miles Malleson ('The Prodigious Snob', indeed!). I make a point of avoiding Moliere in English as much as I do Dario Fo.

[amateur51]

In all fairness, there's no reason why they should be. :)

I will say, though: Moliere has suffered more than most French authors from the attentions of ham-fisted and wilfully inaccurate English 'adaptors' of his work. I'm not sure that his reputation in the UK ever recovered from the unintentional(?) trashing he received at the bungling hands of Miles Malleson ('The Prodigious Snob', indeed!). I make a point of avoiding Moliere in English as much as I do Dario Fo.

What about Chaucer, Mandy?

[Mandryka]

What about Chaucer, Mandy?

What about him?

[amateur51]

What about him?

Do you avoid Chaucer in English as you claim to avoid Molière and Fo in that tongue also?

[amateur51]

I make a point of avoiding Moliere in English as much as I do Dario Fo.

Mario Pirovano must be gutted, Mandy

[Bryn]

Mario Pirovano must be gutted, Mandy

[Mandryka]

Do you avoid Chaucer in English as you claim to avoid Molière and Fo in that tongue also?

I'm perfectly capable of reading Chaucer in MIDDLE English; as I am of appreciating Moliere in French.

[amateur51]

I'm perfectly capable of reading Chaucer in MIDDLE English; as I am of appreciating Moliere in French.

I was just checking your consistency, Mandy

[Mandryka]

Since Dario Fo has been mentioned: he is a very good example of a dramatist who does not 'travel'. I have no idea whether Accidental Death Of An Anarchist is a 'good' play in Italian, but it is certainly a very poor one in English. His Mistero Buffo has fared slightly better, though....

[amateur51]

Since Dario Fo has been mentioned: he is a very good example of a dramatist who does not 'travel'. I have no idea whether Accidental Death Of An Anarchist is a 'good' play in Italian, but it is certainly a very poor one in English. His Mistero Buffo has fared slightly better, though....

Oh dear, a merry theatre audience (of which I was a member) in Hastings last November would beg to differ I'm afraid, Manmdy

Hope that's ok

[Bryn]

Oh dear, a merry theatre audience (of which I was a member) in Hastings last November would beg to differ I'm afraid, Manmdy

Hope that's ok

Perhaps a different translation from that which failed the Mandrake test was used. There are at least three I know of, though only that by Ed Emery was authorised, I understand.

[Mandryka]

Oh dear, a merry theatre audience (of which I was a member) in Hastings last November would beg to differ I'm afraid, Manmdy

Hope that's ok

Well, they were wrong - and so were you.