Do3 16 April: Richard II

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  • Stanley Stewart
    Late Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 1071

    #16
    An addendum to my comments last week *13.

    Astonished that I overlooked Derek Jacobi as Richard II as he has the mercurial temperament and hauteur for the role. I recall a production at the Phoenix Theatre with John Gielgud as John o' Gaunt, probably during his RSC years when his roles also included Cyrano de Bergerac, Much Ado, and The Tempest, an actor in his prime. Another diversion as I intended to use his biography, As Luck Would Have It, Harper Collins, 2013, for quick reference and two hours later...:blush

    A longer distraction, too, when I unearthed an off-air,BBC4, DVD Richard II recording, (7 Sept 2003), which had the merit of a 35mins pre-performance discussion with presenter, Andrew Marr, taking in a tour of the Globe Theatre, South Bank location, which included a worm's eye view of backstage ritual and warm-up routine by the cast on the stage which adds a sense of inclusiveness to the early arrivals at the theatre, including the groundlings!

    The wide stage area, dominated by two central pillars, looks handsome with a stage centre box at the first level for the musicians who remain seated throughout the action and their flourishes add much atmospheric charm, too. Intrigued by the choreography which encouraged movement in a figure 8 direction round the central pillars throughout. Several compulsive interviews with Corin Redgrave - his father, Michael, my first 'Richard II' at Stratford in 1951 - and Zoe Wanamaker whose father, Sam, (1919-1993) came to our shores in the post WW2 era, seeking refuge from McCarthyism in the States but focussed his ambitions on a resurrected Globe Theatre, as well as promoting his notion of Stanislavskian principles acquired in his early years in New York theatre. My generation latched on his vision and I still have a worn copy of Michael Redgrave's memoir, Mask or Face, (1959) on my shelves. Redgrave snr and Wanamaker co-starred in Clifford Odets, The Country Girl, St James's Th, (1953), and their use of improvised sequences became a talking point among students for the next decade, probably the most electric moments I can still recall.

    Mark Rylance tackled Richard II at The Globe, certainly not among my favourite interpretations, no poetry whatsover, yet he fascinates as one of our most creative actors today. He certainly eschews sentimentality en route but I do squirm as he milks the text for easy laughs, viz, during the deposition he prevaricates between renouncing his divine right to rule and giving up his crown, Act IV, Sc 1, "Ay, no; -no ay; for I must nothing be:..."and gets huge laughs with the timing. Same slickness in Act III, Sc IV, referring to his gravestone, "...And my large kingdom for a little grave, A little little grave, an obscure grave -..." I could see him gauging the pauses! Technically brilliant but I wish the director had intervened with a "NO,NO, - NO,NO, Mark...!" or, as Tyrone Guthrie used to say during any stalemate in late afternoon rehearsals, "Enough, go home, think about it, come back in the morning and astonish us".

    Some neat playing in an all-male cast. Not for one moment was I distracted by male actors playing, say, Queen or the Duchess of York, no pantomime tendencies. Good to see John McEnery, a fine character actor as John o' Gaunt, finally destroyed by Richard's overgrown schoolboy savagely pounding him, Act II, Sc1,..."And, thou, a lunatic lean-witted fool, Presuming on an agues privilege...", a disturbing moment where you can feel the shock factor of the audience. The final curtain-call masque dance, led by Richard II, even gets a warm round of applause when Richard & Bolingbroke turn and bow to each other, providing an exhilarating climate to send the audience on their way.

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    • ARBurton
      Full Member
      • May 2011
      • 331

      #17
      I thoroughly enjoyed it - thumbs up R3!

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      • aeolium
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 3992

        #18
        Originally posted by ARBurton View Post
        I thoroughly enjoyed it - thumbs up R3!
        Agreed - I thought this was an excellent production. The director had clearly wanted to emphasise clarity and metre in the verse speaking and for me it really paid off. Joel MacCormack was very fine in the title role with a good balance of self-pity, self-reflection and hauteur, bringing out the lyricism of the poetry in this most poetic of Shakespeare dramas. I thought it was the best portrayal of Richard II I'd heard since the John Hurt one, IIRC around the late 1990s. But all the speakers played their parts impressively, particularly John Rowe as John of Gaunt.

        SS, many thanks for your recollections of past productions. Did you see the Pasco/Richardson one at the RSC I think in the early 1970s, where they famously interchanged the parts of Richard and Bolingbroke in different performances? I only saw one performance, with Pasco as the king, but I couldn't believe that the role-swapping was a good idea, as they are such different characters with very different styles of verse. And I remember seeing Fiona Shaw as the king in Deborah Warner's production at the NT in the 1990s - very good, I thought. It was later filmed, though I think severely cut (I haven't seen the film).

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30254

          #19
          Originally posted by aeolium View Post
          Agreed - I thought this was an excellent production.
          Degrees of enthusiasm for this production, and I'm definitely in the enthusiastic camp.

          There is a sense of distance, artificiality with 'theatre' - all part and parcel of the genre (doubly so with a play which is historical in both setting and composition, perhaps triply so on radio) - but at odds with so much contemporary drama, on television or film, for example, where everything is made to seem as natural and 'true to life' as possible. This is the 'art' to me.
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • Stanley Stewart
            Late Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 1071

            #20
            Originally posted by aeolium View Post
            Agreed - I thought this was an excellent production. The director had clearly wanted to emphasise clarity and metre in the verse speaking and for me it really paid off. Joel MacCormack was very fine in the title role with a good balance of self-pity, self-reflection and hauteur, bringing out the lyricism of the poetry in this most poetic of Shakespeare dramas. I thought it was the best portrayal of Richard II I'd heard since the John Hurt one, IIRC around the late 1990s. But all the speakers played their parts impressively, particularly John Rowe as John of Gaunt.

            SS, many thanks for your recollections of past productions. Did you see the Pasco/Richardson one at the RSC I think in the early 1970s, where they famously interchanged the parts of Richard and Bolingbroke in different performances? I only saw one performance, with Pasco as the king, but I couldn't believe that the role-swapping was a good idea, as they are such different characters with very different styles of verse. And I remember seeing Fiona Shaw as the king in Deborah Warner's production at the NT in the 1990s - very good, I thought. It was later filmed, though I think severely cut (I haven't seen the film).
            Thank you, aeolium. How remiss of me to overlook the underrated Richard Pasco, even his demise in 2014 was given scant coverage. I've always admired his work and recall his Jimmy Porter, Look Back in Anger, at the Royal Court Th, mid-50s, but only met him in 1964 when we were both playing at the Edinburgh Festival in 1964. He was playing Berowne in Love's Labour Lost at the Lyceum Theatre - such elegance and intelligence - and we used to chat at post-performance socialising at the Assembly Rooms. I didn't see his Richard II in a theatre but have a clear memory of his performance on video. I've just set aside for viewing a 3DVD set, Playing Shakespeare, 2010, a fascinating coverage of John Barton's RSC masterclasses featuring Judi Dench, Ben Kingsley, Ian McKellen, Patrick Stewart, Richard Pasco, albeit unsure whether this set includes the Richard II interchanges. I certainly recall the frisson when Richard Burton and John Neville interchanged as Othello and Iago at the Old Vic in 1956 and even paid 12/6d for a seat in the Stalls!

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            • Norrette
              Full Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 157

              #21
              Originally posted by Stanley Stewart View Post
              A longer distraction, too, when I unearthed an off-air,BBC4, DVD Richard II recording
              I have a copy of this also. I often return to it as my introduction to the play. Have also the Jacobi. Have you seen Ben Wishaw's Richard (BBC Hollow Crown) ? I'd be interested to know what you thought of it. Perhaps he started the petulant teenager interpretation.

              One version that's on my wish list is Fiona Shaw's. If it's not recorded I guess it's too late for her to perform in a revival? Damn!

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              • Stanley Stewart
                Late Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 1071

                #22
                Originally posted by Norrette View Post
                I have a copy of this also. I often return to it as my introduction to the play. Have also the Jacobi. Have you seen Ben Wishaw's Richard (BBC Hollow Crown) ? I'd be interested to know what you thought of it. Perhaps he started the petulant teenager interpretation.

                One version that's on my wish list is Fiona Shaw's. If it's not recorded I guess it's too late for her to perform in a revival? Damn!
                You raise several interesing points, Norette. I didn't see Ben Whishaw's, Richard II in the theatre, albeit much impressed by his Hamlet at the Old Vic, 2004ish. I've made a note to revisit an off-air video. David Tennant also registered in this role around this time but I felt ostracised as I can't see what's going on behind his eyes. The loss may,indeed, be mine.

                Fiona Shaw, a striking presence as the young King and I think this was the start of her partnership with Deborah Warner? Perhaps more vivid memories, too, of her astonishing Hedda Gabler, Playhouse, 1991; she is never afraid of taking risks! I also recall her Electra at the Pit early 1989; she pulverises emotions, not by an imposed concept but by sheer concentration on the text and acting.

                IMV, John Gielgud set the bar line for Richard II from the late 20s with his huge success in Richard of Bordeaux, before he paced himself in a Shakespearian context until the 1940s. I saw his one-man, Ages of King recitals several times at the Queen's Theatre, 1959, and was spellbound as he traversed the role with power and authority over 2o mins, from conceit and peevishness to a broken man, gradually gaining self-understanding.

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                • Norrette
                  Full Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 157

                  #23
                  Of course some of those productions I've never seen, Stanley, but thank you for the review. Tennant doesn't move me at all. Sadly, I've not seen Shaw live in anything - but have snippets of her performances in Open University recordings. I expect it was Warner's production.

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                  • aeolium
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3992

                    #24
                    Norrette, SS - there is a DVD of the Warner/Fiona Shaw 1990s NT production (at least based on it):



                    I haven't seen it - I saw the original production at the NT - though I understand there were some significant cuts compared with the staged version. Incidentally don't bother to read most of these Amazon reviews which are mainly referring to a totally different version, the BBC's Hollow Crown with Ben Whishaw as the king.

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                    • Stanley Stewart
                      Late Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 1071

                      #25
                      Many thanks, aeolium. A consummation devoutly to be wished, now ordered!

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                      • Norrette
                        Full Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 157

                        #26
                        Originally posted by aeolium View Post
                        Norrette, SS - there is a DVD of the Warner/Fiona Shaw 1990s NT production (at least based on it):
                        Thanks aeolium - have just ordered it.

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